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  1. I have been thinking recently of this hypothesis / starting point: “Radical Islam” as a global psy op – “western” or “globalist” elites working both sides and allied closely with elements, factions of political islam (think Huma Abedin) – the idea occurring to them, perhaps accidentally, during the early 1980s Afgan exercise contra-Soviets.

    But why would “our” elites find such common cause with such elements – that I understand poorly; only extremely profound goals could explain it.

    (Do we tend to think of psy ops too locally? Too episodically? Could they be global and long duration?)

    1. Globalists Created Wahhabi Terrorism to Destroy Islam and Justify a Global State

      The ‘House’ of Saud — no more Islamic than Billy Graham

      (This page censored at Wikipedia)

      Following the dictates of Hegelian dialectic, the Globalists have created two antagonizing forces, the “Liberal-Democratic” West, against Terrorism, or “political Islam”, to force us into the acceptance of their final alternative, a New World Order.

      The West and Islam have had a long era of compatibility, but this history has been denied to foster the myth of a “Clash of Civilizations”. In order to inflame the sentiments of the West against Islam, our attention has been focused on the specter of fanatical Wahhabism, and more specifically, its most notorious exponent, Osama bin Laden.

      However, as outlined in an excellent article by Peter Goodgame, The Globalists and the Islamists, the Globalists have had a hand in shaping and financing all the terrorist organizations of the twentieth century, including the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, Hamas of Palestine and the Afghan Mujahideen. But the history of their duplicity dates farther back still, to the 18th Century, when British Freemasons created the Wahhabi sect of Saudi Arabia itself, to further their imperialistic objectives.

      That a British spy by the name of Hempher was responsible for shaping of the extreme tenets of Wahhabism was mentioned in a Turkish work, Mir’at al-Haramain, by Ayyub Sabri Pasha between 1933-1938. British policy in its colonies often involved the creation of deviant sects, in order to Divide and Conquer, as was the case with the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam in India in the nineteenth century.

      The details of this conspiracy are outlined in a little known document by the name of The Memoirs of Mr. Hempher published in series (episodes) in the German paper Spiegel, and later in a prominent French paper. A Lebanese doctor translated the document to the Arabic language and from there on it was translated to English and other languages.

      The document is a first-hand account by Hempher of his mission for his government, which sent him to the Middle East to discover ways to undermine the Ottoman Empire. Among the vices the British were to promote were racism and nationalism, alcohol, gambling, fornication and tempting Muslim women to uncover themselves.

      But most important was the strategy to “insert heresies into Muslims’ creedal tenets and then criticize Islam for being a religion of terror.” To this purpose, Hempher located a particularly corrupt individual by the name of Mohammed Ibn Adbul Wahhab.


      (I recommend reading the entire short article, at minimum).

      1. I think David Livingston ceased to trust the story about Hempher. Both regarding the existence of Hempher and the chronology regarding the central figure in the account about wahabism. However Livingstone later cites another figure with an arabic name who was supposed to be in collusion with the British and played a role of interest in this context.
        Further Robert Dreyfuss has written a very revealing book Hostage of Khomeini (1980) with a lot about the British plot against Islam.
        Dreyfuss wrote something like: americans should not be surprised to learn that Britain deliberately underdeveloped the middle eastern countries like Britain did with the rest of the empire..(<=not exact wording)
        from EIR:
        “The Muslim Brotherhood could not exist today were it not for the fact that the more backward and epistemologically reactionary elements of Muslim culture were carefully cultivated by Orientalists of the British Oxford and Cambridge tradition. Far from being a real expression of Muslim history and culture, the parasitic Ikhwan is the result of patient organizing by London’s Islamic-world intelligence agents typified by Ar-
        nold Toynbee, H. St.-J. B. Philby, T.E. Lawrence(‘of arabia’), E.G. Browne, and many, many others.”

        1. Thanks for the link Peter. As a young lad attending Uni in London many moons ago, some of my mates got mesmerize by this movement, but I wasn`t due to my research of the Brotherhood.

          On numerous weekends a few of the ardent believers would take road trip to Wales and Scotland to enjoy the pleasures of white women,pork and alcohol. Times may change but things remain the same.

      2. As per Mathis and pics of Bikini Atoll, it was supposedly blown to bits by an atomic blast. I believe it was ten years later and the locals moved back on it and began farming and fishing. The place looks like paradise and there are no huge craters. It would be interesting to see a geiger counter reading of the whole place.

        1. Also, look at the countryside surrounding Chernobyl, all is well, the wildlife is thriving, and even people who refused to leave are poverty stricken, but still alive. Discover ALL of the hoaxes in your life, what might remain at the end of the rainbow?

  2. I would like to entertain discussion on the topic of Nuclear Weapons: Fraud?
    At first this seems ludicrous, but after learning more about video,
    Chroma-Key technology (green screen) it is apparent how easily this could have been faked, at least early alleged detonations,
    they are always conducted far from the public view, I have not met ONE person who ever witnessed one in the distance, most of the alleged experiments were done in the Pacific,
    but most troubling is in all this time, not ONE terrorist act of so much as a suitcase bomb has detonated-I find this unbelievable,
    there is no question this has been used as a weapon of terror all across the globe irregardless whether they exist or not;
    we do know that criminal syndicates have committed unbelievable frauds on the public, stealing vast wealth, e.g., Federal Reserve, which IS the power of the Worldwide Zionist Mafia, which creates wealth out of nothing on a ledger and charges us for that money plus interest,
    I am seeing vast frauds in NASA, and it becomes apparent that people are being fleeced on a grand scale, and this is shaping up to be another one IMO

    1. I’ve looked into this a little bit and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they were faked. Miles Mathis has a good analysis of the “evidence”.

      I am with you on NASA as well. What a fraud and money sink that is.

    2. Well, besides Einstain and his buddies (like Oppenheimer, Szilard and the other Manhattan Mafia) being complete and utter criminal communist frauds, there’s the little matter that E≠mc², yes I said “not equal to”. Fake.

      For many reasons, but briefly, E (for Energy) is a vector quantity. It must have both size and direction. And m (for mass) is a scalar quantity, and it has size only. You cannot find an equivalence between a scalar quantity and a vector quantity. If you can, please send me one box of electrical power from your home, I’ll pay you 10 times what you paid for it. Please just put one gram of electrical power in the box, to save on shipping. If you wish, you can use ultraviolet light as a packing material. 😉

      The “atomic bombs” people “witnessed” in early tests, well, for one thing, they were told to either turn their backs to the explosion, or wear dense, black glasses to protect their eyes. So they saw very little of the magic trick. It is documented that men were stacking a huge pile of tons of TNT behind the test site. Add a little Magnesium powder to the TNT, and boom, you have a brilliant white flash. The stack of TNT was detonated, everyone felt a compressive shock wave, et voila! An “atomic” bomb! Fake.

      Photographic evidence of the “atomic” bombs show evidence of trickery. In the film of the supposed Hiroshima bomb, supposedly taken from the Enola Gay, a shock wave passes through a tiny puff of cloud, and does not distort it in any way. Fake.

      The damage done at Hiroshima exactly matches the damage at Dresden, Tokyo and Osaka, all firebombed cities, just like Hiroshima was firebombed with napalm and other incendiary ingredients. Just another American and British holocaust, a real one this time.

      You cannot smash pieces of metal together, no matter how “critical” their mass, no matter how explosively, and no matter how radioactive they are, and transform them into “pure energy”. Not light, not heat, not acoustic force, no way. Fake.

      Even today, all of the major political powers, if they want a huge explosion to kill a lot of people and do a lot of property damage, they use a MOAB (Mother of all Bombs), which is a bomb that disperses gasoline in the air as a huge cloud, and then ignites it. Boom! Death and destruction kilometers wide.

      1. No E is a component of a vector. And the relation holds good.
        It has been accurately confirmed over and over again by measuring the heat released and the total weight of the concerned atoms.
        Antimatter reactions confirm it for the entire mc^2
        There are speculations about the nature of hypothetical dark matter bringing in concepts like dark energy. Who knows what might transpire in that connection. The corresponding 4-momentum might really be tilted in some unfamiliar manner.

        1. Peter,
          Could you translate your comment into English..haha

          “No E is a component of a vector.”

          The whole “Nuke thing” is a strange one I’ll admit.

          All we have is the films of them blowing up on land then all other “Tests” were conducted under ground.

          I don’t doubt they have something but who knows.

          But, we have much more pressing issues to deal with.

          The Cloward/Piven King O’ admin wants us arguing, if your Junk says MAN, can you use the Women’s Rest Room and endanger Women and Children…(just put some eye shadow on)

          The left say “YES”.

          So much for the “War against Women” the left rally behind.

          They have have shown their hypocrisy and have started their own “War against Women AND Children” as well.

          They have taken their Agenda into the Bathrooms now.

          Truly Disgusting little Weasels they are.

          We are down so low, we are discussing going to the Bathroom?


        2. Ric
          He said energy was a directed quantity and I countered with bringing up 4-momentum, where I lost you. Basically it means that one treats energy AND momentum as a 4D quantity and calculates how this 4D quantity seems when observed by different observers in relative motion.
          Einstein didnt just conjure up a formula, such as E=mc2, like a couple of other guys one of which our top commenter mentions. No Einstein DERIVED it by applying on the laws of mechanics the transformations known to preserve the form of the electromagnetic field equations for observers in relative motion. That is he generalized the ordinary mechanical laws although it took more generalizations later to complete the job. Ie according to present wisdom. Who knows how all this might change tomorrow.
          Concerning nukes, the accurately measured energy production in nuclear reactions is in good agreement with the cited power of nuclear weapons. However the details about how they, buy the choice of materials, tweak the neutron absorption crossections as well as the elastic scattering crossections are the tricks of the trade they hold close to the chest(using the poker analogy) So the skeptics can always speculate that those crossections are less favorable than necessary for the exterior measures of real weapons. And only insiders can prove otherwise but their lips are sealed.

        3. Well, I knew that I should not have used a mathematical argument, because Mathematics is the principle method of LYING to the public nowadays, but I did it anyway. No matter.

          Energy is the means to move matter from one place to another, NOT transform matter into energy. That was the original concept of S. P Tolver when HE came up with the [fallacious] idea that E=mc² in a letter to a colleague, which he never even tried to prove or back up with any experimental data. Einstain merely plagiarized his idea, and diverted it to his own political ends.

          Ad hoc beLIEfs created by the church of Science, like Big Bang, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, neutron stars and other made-up beLIEfs, like the General and Special theories of relativity, redshift-equals-distance-and-speed, are pure fiction. Thinking this way, against Scientific dogma, especially by an academic scholar, however, will get you called a heretic and banned from this cult, losing access to scientific tools, funding, publications and all public discussion. A good recent example would be Halton “Chip” Arp, who was thus treated by the consensus astronomical community. This award-winning astronomer was banned from further telescope time when he discovered (and actually said out loud) that so-called Quasars are not nearly as distant as beLIEved, and are not traveling away from us at super-speed and that their redshift is actually a property of young, newly formed (ejected) galaxies.

        4. Einstein didn’t do much of anything. He was a clerk in Rothschild’s Swiss patent office and very poor in math. His Serbian wife handled the complexities and then he divorced her. Mileva told a Serbian friend, “we finished some important work that will make my husband world famous.”


          There is absolute written proof that Olinto De Pretto, an industrialist from Vicenza, published the equation E=mc^2 in a scientific magazine, Atte, in 1903.

          Einstein allegedly used De Pretto’s insight in a major paper published in 1905, but De Pretto was never acclaimed– as R monopolised the media and peer reviewed magazines ..

          See: “The Manufacture and Sale of Saint Einstein -by Christopher Jon Bjerknes”

          Albert Einstein had two cats one big one small. He had two holes cut on his door, for cats to travel in and out – one small– one big !

          How many dim-wits will do this ? Even a gardener watering his lawn in heavy rain will NOT fall so low

          The 7000 year old Vedic theory that “energy and matter are inter convertible “ was known to Newton (“Gross bodies and light are convertible into one another…”, 1704).

          The whole scientific world knew that Albert Einstein did not have the laboratory necessary to conduct the appropriate experiments or even knowledge of Math. Those days you could be eliminated if you stick your neck out too much opposing R stooges ..such was the fear psychosis.

          Einstein had lifted from the Vedas that light should not travel in a perfectly straight line. Light rays are warped by an object’s gravitational field.

          Since Newton had in possession this Vedic information, he too predicted ( sic ) light would bend due to gravity, but only by half as much as Einstein’s theory predicted.

          Einstein was planted in the Swiss Patent’s office with an assurance that as long as he copies ideas , without copying it verbatim, the R monopolized peer reviewed magazines would make sure he is in the clear.

          Bill Gates, pulled the same thing off . He legally won the claim of having innovated the windowing software that, despite its bugs, bears a striking resemblance to the earlier software of Apple Macintosh.


        5. I read Bjerknes book a couple of years ago and am familiar with what he thinks. It is of interest as part of scientific history however Bjerknes is driven by wrath and doesnt understand the science to the necessary depth. That makes it harder for him to judge the relative importance of the details he brings up. If you had read my comment attentively you would have noted that I already covered those cases of conjuring up the formula without proof. What was missing was the recognition that time is stretched out when there is a relative motion and that makes all the difference in the world when you derive the result from the laws of mechanics.
          Einstein, was like you have noted, not mathematically skilled in comparison with his peers, but mathematicians are interested in the math nomatter what the application, while E had intuition for physics and interpreted the known facts in a novel manner. Those who discovered and tried to make sense of the so called Lorentz transformation wanted to preserve absolute time and therefore weren’t bold enough to draw the necessary conclusion. Once it had been published the leading scientists recognized his qualities. Max Planck wasnt stupid but lesser minds still didnt get it twenty years later.
          Later E became an icon and when David Hilbert gave him very substantial help with his so called general theory of relativity, E failed to acknowledge that help for over a year. E couldnt live up to his own high expectations partly applied via the (zionist?) media, and that does shame him. But he was only human. Many people cant handle fame.
          And Bernard Riemann was probably his main inspiration for curved geometry.

  3. Not sure my comment qualifies as “significant affairs of the day” but just wanted to relate this little incident I experienced April 4, day before yesterday on JamesFetzer.blogspot.com. It had been some time since I had visited that site but found 3 comments after this article…


    One of the comments was by Emmanuel Goldstein, a somewhat notorious poster that goes by different screen names and about whom MHB had a fairly recent article here…


    March 15, 2016
    Exposing Thomas Potter, Disinfo Artist and Internet Troll 72

    This comment claimed to have the full identity and background of Dr. Eowyn of FellowshipOfTheMinds blog. It contained what was somewhat like a curriculum vitae or resume and the long posting contained several links to source sites.

    I went back an hour or so later as I decided I should copy that comment and research it but it was no longer posted.

    I can only recall a few points about the posting but it started with a sentence, my very rough paraphrase, with an accusatory tone asking a rhetorical question about accepting Dr. Eowyn as a reliable source for information as she has a record of having made presentations at more than one counter intelligence conferences of branches of the U.S. Military. The implication appeared to be that Dr. Eowyn is some kind of high level government disinformation agent.
    This are my very sketchy memories of my having briefly scanned the original posting one time.

    Her real name is Maria ____[Asian Name]___Chang

    She has all of her degrees including her Ph.D. from UCLA Berkeley.
    She is an expert on Asian / Eastern studies as best I can remember and is originally from Hong Kong, but apparently has spent most of her life in USA.

    She has several publications but did not see that she is a professor at any institution.

    I think Emmanuel Goldstein’s [EG] posting on JamesFetzer.blogspot.com have not been allowed for several months but this one slipped through to actual posting because I guess the moderator was not watching site closely. I do not know how long the EG posting was there.

    I searched around using relevant word searches to see if I could validate any of EG’s posting but I absolutely found nothing. The posting appeared to be legitimate but it seems odd that I could find nothing. It is quite possible that Emmanuel Goldstein is an expert at constructing false information pieces.

    As far as I am concerned Dr. Eowyn has a stellar record in consistently posting high quality information. I do not find it absolutely necessary to have a person’s real name, though it does seem to be more important to me as time goes on. (I have posted on MHB one time with my real name, several times as so on other times, and my real name can be found in about 15 seconds on the web.)

    I do not know how we can ever determine for sure who anyone’s real name is, but I guess it can be done with good computer skills.

    That is all I have for this FreeFormFriday XIII. I find it irrelevant to comment on the presidential election or other matters as I personally think we are in the last days and the conspiracy is one that has been operating for many centuries. It is good that we have shined the light of truth on so many false event. But all that really matters is where our eternal souls eternally reside and that depends on our every thought, word and deed.
    God bless us each and every one in the Name of the One Who is Truth.

    1. Many common-taters use pen names,
      I see no problem with it in general discussions,
      in fact it is only prudent today,
      I also think Dr. Eowyn’s posts are interesting reading
      along with his/her website,
      all good truthers are attacked on media,
      I see one of the authors MHB hosted suggested that Eustace Mullins was a closet homosexual, a Nazi, and listed the fraudulent FBI reports when Mullins was actively harassed and gang-stalked,
      a practise the FBI is well known for,
      so unless we have some real evidence to the contrary
      (However I really think this story on Dr. Eowyn may be subversive

      1. I think maintaining the landline is important, too. There is evidence that the EMF frequencies are damaging to health, especially the brain, which I’m sure you know. FYI, you still have access to 911 services. Just call your local police precinct & give them the address you want associated w your cell phone if you should ever call 911.

      2. Sunaj57, Regarding Eustace Mullins. Wm Engdahl claimed him as a friend, and Mr. Engdahl is a person of great character. Eustace Mullins spoke of the project of creating a world govt/oligarchy for many years before it became more commonly known. He did believe that the persons at the bottom of the project are Jews. That doesn’t make him a Nazi. Eustace visited Ezra Pound, the poet, where he was interned as a mental patient– supposedly actually for political reasons. Eustace wrote a biography of Ezra & much of his knowledge and writing was heavily influenced by Ezra. I think of Mr. Mullins as a hero. I learned a lot from him.

        1. If you trust Miles Mathis, Eustace Mullins may have been taken for a ride by Ezra Pound. Miles the disinformer manages to intrigue me in this particular case: mileswmathis.com/papa.pdf
          I quote
          “…Wow. We have, at one swoop, connected Hemingway, Crowley, Stein, Joyce, Ford and Pound to Intelligence, and we have done it without leaving the whitewashed pages of Wikipedia.”
          “..But let us return to John Quinn’s protégé in Europe, Ezra Pound. In 1925, Pound was praising Lenin in This Quarter, so we see him promoting both Marxism and fascism at that time. You should see this as extraordinary as well, since by 1925 Russia was in ruins, being decimated by both the Red Terror of Lenin and the Great Famine of 1921 (caused by Communist policies). [Mathis is wrong there though, it was due to an invasion from 20 countries!]

          Although many original Marxists had soured on Marxism by 1925, Pound’s enthusiasm was just then peaking. And in hindsight we can guess Pound was so enthusiastic because Marxism was doing what it was promoted to do:created havoc and destroy Republicanism.”

          “…We can’t understand the Pound of 1940 without understanding the Pound of 1908 or 1920, and as wehave seen, the mainstream material hasn’t helped us do that. We have been misdirected all along. But if Pound was an agent in 1908 and 1920, then only one of two things can explain his behavior in 1940. Either he was still an agent and the whole thing was manufactured; or he cracked, turned on his handlers, and began attacking them. Although the latter might at first appear to be more likely, since it more easily explains his time at St. Elisabeth’s mental ward, the evidence indicates to me that it is the former. If he had really cracked and turned against Intelligence, the main target of his insane rants would have been Intelligence. Since the main targets of his rants were Jews, capitalism, usury, the armaments industry, and so on, it appears that Pound was simply being used as an Anti. “

        2. I don’t believe for one moment that Pound or his understudies were anything but genuine Patriotic heroes,
          I knew very well that Eustace was going to be attacked when he died because NO ONE could or would take him on in a debate when he lived, he had photographic memory and was a true genius,
          I intend to see any pozers or sock-puppets thoroughly trashed when I come across this behavior,
          Cheers to your memory, Eustace!

        3. Mullins being taken for a ride doesnt mean he was not a patriot. It was about Pounds purported duplicity, not Mullins. And concerning Pounds poetry, do you understand his fame? Seems to me its the kind of creativity the speculators and art critics like because the public doesnt.

        4. Ezra Pound and Eustace Mullins paid their dues as true heroes of America,
          I know that sounds quaint today, but in the truest sense of the word they suffered and toiled against the grain of government subversion and violence, to their persons and to their reputations and their lives for the ideals that many of us in here hold dear,
          Pound spent a decade of his life in a mental hospital because of his views and his courage to stand up and expose what many in here are only BEGINNING to understand,
          you are HERE today because of EZRA POUND and EUSTACE MULLINS, and their work, their strife, their suffering-
          This is the sound of Sawtoon whispering in your ear,
          placing that seed of doubt, injecting his virus into your system

        5. I’m familiar with Mullins introduction to Pounds experiences and I know Mullins did original research regarding the banksters. But he was young when Pound became his mentor and he wasnt privy of all Pounds connections. Have you digested the points Mathis made about Pound being seemingly raised to importance by influential people?
          (Many people are coopted by the ptb through career opportunities. We see that happening as I write and Sweden has been dragged to a needless involvement in the imperial aggression against Russia.
          Tons of money is reported to have been distributed in targeted nations and various scholarships, Fulbright and Soros scholarships and others were used to build a European fifth column. )
          If Mathis account is correct that might have been the case with Pound. When he ended up in the asylum, Mathis contends, he gives critics of bankers and jews a connotation of being insane. Not worth listening to.
          I have no certain opinion but I’m willing to give Mathis interpretation the benefit of a doubt. If Mathis is right Pound may have been playing a role.
          But this doesnt mean he didnt hold the views he communicated to Mullins. There are many examples of double-natured people playing important roles for duping the majority. The round table society, later known as the Cliveden set seems to have had access to a substantial number of such double natures. People who could be liberals,socialists and imperialists, racial supremacists on the same time.

    2. Emmanuel Goldstein is a seriously deranged and destructive individual. It was a difficult decision for Dr. Fetzer to decide to moderate his blog, and subsequently to delete Potter’s comments. You are right, Dr. Eowyn is a tireless researcher and good person, and I know James personally. His integrity is second to none on the planet.

  4. The FDA ruling is beyond simple oversight. It is a takeover of a non-monopolized industry that is enabling people to permanently quit cigarettes in droves. The 500-page “deeming” rule defacto bans all life-saving vaping technology since 2007 in the US and hands the remaining market over to the public-private Big Tobacco partnership.

    At the same time, the UK Royal College of Physicians published a report that concludes that vaping is “likely to be beneficial to UK public health”.

    In the US, it’s obviously not about public health. This just reinforces the notion that alphabet agencies exist only to serve government and corporate interests. Public interests are ignored.

    A few media outlets are starting to “get it” instead of parroting the FDA’s worn out for-the-children talking points.

  5. Not long ago, my girlfriend asked me, “If the Brussels bombing was indeed a psy-op (Hoax), then what is the motive?”

    At the time, I fumbled my words. I spoke about the globalist radical islam bizzarro show and how it is being used as a tool for taking our rights and keeping us in fear… but today, things have significantly changed. As of recent, Obama has declared that we will begin putting boots on the ground in Syria.

    Am I correct in connecting these dots? Brussels is the home of NATO, and now NATO’s biggest member, USA, is sending troops to Syria after we vowed for almost three years that we would not “Put american boots on the ground.”

    What is the consensus for motive on “Beheadings, bogus bombings, and other ISIS fakery?

    1. Just substitute “Muslims” for “Goldstein”, and you have your answer:

      “Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate: Terror Management and the Politics of Fear

      The opening chapter of Orwell’s dystopian nightmare Nineteen Eighty-four centers around the “Two Minutes Hate.” Winston Smith, the novel’s protagonist, describes pulling up a chair in front of the big telescreen, taking a seat among his Ministry of Truth co-workers, and participating in a ritual designed to reinforce party orthodoxy, Oceania’s version of Must-See-TV.

      What follows is a wild display of enmity, precisely channeled and orchestrated by Ingsoc, the totalitarian rulers of Oceania. The chorus of hissing, squeaking, and screaming is focused on Goldstein, the ultimate enemy of the state, “the self-satisfied sheeplike face” that automatically “produced anger and fear” in everybody. Why? Goldstein stands for everything Ingsoc reviles. He demands peace and advocates “freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought.”


      1984 (1/11) Movie CLIP – Two Minutes Hate (1984) HD – YouTube

  6. I smoked a pack of cigarettes a day for 23 years and quit overnight vaping. Six months later I was given an extensive physical exam by my doctor who declared that my body showed no adverse effects from having ever smoked cigarettes. I’ve always known that once the FDA, pharmaceutical industries, and Big Tobacco companies got their grubby hands on this much safer alternative trouble would ensue. A healthier population is far to threatening to the profitability of lifelong addiction.

  7. It’s pretty clear now that Prince died of some opioid complication. Needlessly, I might add, and not just because he should have had access, as should every addict, to the controlled-by-Pharma injection that reverses this kind of overdose. He’d be alive and playing today, if he had just been using this simple plant material to manage both his pain and his addiction.


    It’s called kratom. It has a collection of alkaloids that includes opioids, as well as stimulants, coupled with a low potential for abuse. For longer than time, it’s been used for pain relief, as well as weaning people from their addictions to heroin and now painkillers, and even so-called “maintenance” drugs like methadone.

    Read more about kratom here, but I can answer more questions about it, as well, if anyone is interested. Just ask.


    One thing I always liked about Prince was, he had no fear of fashion. There was nothing he wouldn’t wear and couldn’t pull off. Check him out in this sweater, which looks like it came from the back of my mom’s closet:


    1. Anywhere from a single bolus of 50-100 grams of Vitamin C, injected intravenously to three such treatments have been proven to completely reverse the effects of opioid addiction, and acute symptoms (which might have led to death).

      1. Vit C injections are a wonder cure, if half of what I have documented is true, it was extremely effective in the cure and eradication of Polio in the 20th century, although the practitioner was attacked and he and his work was discredited by the AMA

        1. Never heard of Vit C injections, sounds good.

          I had a friend schooling to be a Nurse and she would give me Vit. B12 injections in me bung.

          I felt so good for 2 weeks. Non Drug. Natures best as she,always gives.

          I asked my doctor for a shot of B-12 and he told me NO…WTF?

          You can’t get B-12 or Oxygen from your doctor unless your Rich or on a famous sports team..Period,

        2. I will try to find the research I did on this physician,
          this was in the early 1900s, he kept medical studies of his results and by todays standards his work was the eqivalent of curing cancer,
          the AMA black-balled him and essentially discredited his work,
          as a nurse I have run across a number of medical discoveries that the AMA/Intelligence has done the same

      2. I found a couple of studies that said Vitamin C might ameliorate the symptoms of withdrawal. But I found no on-line communities of heroin users dedicated to helping each other lessen their addictions using Vitamin C. There are tons of forums of kratom users sharing information about pain, addiction, recreational use, etc.

        Here’s another way to tell it works, it’s routinely banned in countries where opium production is part of the economy. One instance is quoted in the article I linked to: “… (kratom) was actually banned by the Thai government in 1943 precisely because its use as a substitute led to decreased revenues from opium taxes.”

      3. Excuse me, but I don’t think you want to INJECT a bolus of vitamin C intravenously. Your body maintains a tight pH balance. You could use an intravenous slow-drip.

        1. Sodium Ascorbate avoids the acidic problem, while still having the same beneficial effect. A slow drip is also an effective remedy for many illnesses that are not critical emergencies. After either one, most people report feeling fantastic.

          And yes, Polio was cured in 60 patients by Dr. Fred Klenner using up to 32 gram injections of ascorbate, including one girl who as already flaccid below the waist.

        2. Vit C is typically injected IM but as long it is an IV prep given appropriately there is no harm in vit c injections, though I have never seen it given IV except if the pt was on enteral feeding

    2. Thanks Toni. I don’t remember hearing of this stuff. I found a site that has a variety pack I will be ordering soon to see what will work best for me.

      1. Elfmom,
        I’m so happy you’re gonna try the kratom. I think the variety pack is a smart way to go; you can see what works for you. Even the stimulant kinds provide pain relief, if that’s what you’re looking for.

        Like similar natural substances, kratom is so much safer and cheaper than pharmaceuticals. It gives control back to the individual. It’s like part of a People’s Pharmacy that can used instead of allopathic remedies. This is inherited knowledge that should belong to everyone.

        I don’t know what company you are using, but the best company I’ve found for freshness, price and delivery is Kwik Kratom. It’s in Florida, which is too bad as there’s a full on push to get it banned in that state. Doesn’t Florida have a high rate of addiction, “hillbilly heroin” and such? Like I said, too bad.

        There’s one thing you might want to keep in mind. Opioids often cause nausea in persons with no tolerance to them. This happened to me. With kratom, it goes away after several uses as an (unnoticeable) tolerance is acquired. What worked for me in this initial period were over-the-counter motion sickness medications like Dramamine, Benedryl, and meklizine. The allergy antihistamine medicine called Diphenhydramine can be used as well. Just take a normal dose of the OTC med an hour before you take the kratom.

        Good luck, and let me know how it goes, if you want.

        1. Toni,
          I researched that today also. Where can we get that locally?

          I think we are both here in Los Angeles(the armpit of the world)

        2. Ric, we can get it locally, but here’s the thing. It’s not grown in this country, so it’s all imported. You may as well get it from the best distributer, instead of the closest one.

          Kwik Kratom is $7.99 an ounce and two days delivery. Very fresh.

          Where I would not buy it from is a smoke smoke or headshop, or a liquor store. You don’t know how long that stuff’s been in there.

        3. I know. Thailand or ?

          I think I found a place. White Vein Maeng Da Kratom.

          I have no opioid problems. Just looking for that “boost” thats clean.

        4. Kratom grows well in the same places as opium and coffee.

          I like the white vein you mentioned. Very stimulating. It’ll give you the boost you’re looking for at first. Then later, Ric be all mellooooow.

        5. The site I found with variety pack is Kratora. I will look at Kwik also. Thanks. After several yrs of being off hydrocodone I am back on them as little as possible. I HATE how they make me feel. Seems they have changed their formula since I last used them. I’m on my 2nd brand now and still awful stuff.

        6. Kratora looks good. Nice element-tight packaging.

          Elfmom, I think you’re gonna find that kratom provides pain relief without that yucky pharm feeling. The varieties are all different, but all have a very pleasant effect. You can obtain pain relief from a very low dose, and after several hours, even the more stimulating types yield to a mellow, relaxed state.

        7. Thanks Ric. I don’t know anything about the stuff but willing to try it. The author took way too many it looks like. Maybe a Big Pharma disinfo agent like “WebMD”? Don’t know.

        8. Turmeric is a great natural inflammatory and can be a pain reliever. it also protects against Alzheimer’s.

        9. I did use turmeric in water with pepper for a short time but the ghastly taste was a bit too much. I have it on my “to get” list in capsule form. Thanks.

      2. Its important to realize that Vit C therapy often requires very large doses, e.g., the treatment for polio in the 20th century, not typically the low dose you receive with vit supplements

    3. Toni, just letting you know I have been using Kratom for a week and LOVE it. I got a sample pack from Kratora as your seller only had a large sample pack for $140.00. I will be ordering more and thanks again. 🙂

        1. Can’t say I like one over the other. All of them seem to help in the back pain dept. Only had to take 2 hydro and those were halves.

        2. Glad to hear that it’s helping you use less pharmaceuticals, elfmom.

          I have Maeng Da Green right now, which is a stimulating variety. It’s very good for pain as well. It’s good if you have a big physical task to

          Thanks for letting me know your experience. I’m happy it’s working for you.

        3. I just ordered the 3 pack variety (3 oz. total) from your seller @ $19.99 and free postage. At Kratora I got 3 1/2 oz for $49.99 + 5-6 $ shipping. WOW! Such a price difference! I’ll let you know about MD green. Thanks again

        4. Elfmom, yeah, Kwik Kratom is the best! That’s quite a deal. Let me know what you think of the other strains, too.

          Also, how much are you taking for relief, if you don’t mind me asking? I only take a gram or so to get full effect.

  8. Verizon phone co. on Long Island NY, decided last year not to maintain the “copper wire” land lines any more. Now I am realizing that we will have no ability to communicate with any emergency services if we had another super storm Sandy.. 20 states have already made this illegal. If this draconian action is coming to your town, you should stop it before you lose it.
    I’m not sure how New York could reverse this, DON’T LET THEM TAKE YOUR LANDLINE. If FIOS comes to your town demand to keep your landline!

    1. Nope, it is theirs and they are entitled to take it away. The answer is to become self-sufficient and never, ever rely on “emergency services” ever again. Take charge of your own life! It’s yours until death, and you have a remarkably powerful say in how long that life actually is.

    2. I think maintaining the landline is important, too. There is evidence that the EMF frequencies are damaging to health, especially the brain, which I’m sure you know. FYI, you still have access to 911 services. Just call your local police precinct & give them the address you want associated w your cell phone if you should ever call 911.

      1. Penelope,

        They have taken all our basic communications away via Digital.

        Your TV Set can’t pick up an AM signal in an emergency.

        Obama did this in 2009, his 1st year in office.

        People today don’t know, the young or the older have forgotten about AM/FM and Shortwave Radio to the detriment of this nation after Planing for 60 years.

        The Govt. in 2009 destroyed all Analog signals and made them all Digital.

        60 years of preparation died that day.

        If something Big happens, 5% of the People have a Radio or TV to listen to the News,,,,,,

        No One Complained…

        1. Elf,
          There’s no doubt they “stole” all the basic VHL frequencies for “Their” convenience at Our expense.

          Nobody in America is prepared for a disaster Now,

          Digital won’t work if you don’t have a digital receiver. No One Does.

          AM/SW is the best and farthest reaching signal in a disaster.

          Very few even know what that is, much less own an devise.

          I was saying “Red Alert” way back in 2009.

          The Con was a nice sweet TV pic for free.


        2. Just to clarify for the knowing.

          TV is an AM Picture and FM sound.

          When I said VHL, I was saying VHF low band which is channel 2 thru 6.

          These are the key frequencies the Govt. stole that day.

          The best way to communicate.

          oh, well.

    1. I don’t understand?

      Don’t you like Vaccines, GMO’s and Chem-Trails?

      They are all Vitamin Fortified. They Love You.

      Are you one of those “Conspiracy” Wacko’s?..Sarc / off

  9. I also would like to discuss the “Flat Earth” theory, not because I think it has any merit but because the subject is being injected into all social media, and it would be good to put this to rest, initial reading leads me to believe it is a PsyOp coming out of the Monarchy, designed to confuses and further erode any confidence in Truthers on real subjects, like 9/11

    1. Oh, it’s a psyop, alright. Obummer already brought the idea to the public that if you think there may be a conspiracy involved in a publicly promoted event (like 9/11 or Sandy Hoax), then you are equivalent to a “Flat Earther”. Now there is an active team of confusers bringing arguments for the “Flat Earth” to those who have a difficult time in discovering its fallacies.

      They bring an overwhelming number of questions, over a hundred, if I remember, and I cannot answer all of them here. Remember that air, especially moist air refracts light, and in more than one way than mirages. That should help.

      Here’s a link to the first thing that I can remember about their argument:

      Optics for Beginners

      Study, learn, understand, question, and eliminate ignorance.

      1. A sure fire way to prove or disprove “flat earthism” is to board a ship and circumnavigate Antarctica…or fly a plane over it from the tip of S America to Australia.

    2. There are some serious flat earthers in the Truth community, it’s mind boggling. Scott Bennett and Michael J, who appear on shows like Truth vs News in Seattle, and the Raw Deal with James Fetzer are dead serious about it.

        1. Sun,
          If you can find the huge discussion on Flat Earth here about 4 months ago on Free Fridays, Fetzer was even jumping in here on MHB.

          He is adamantly against the psyop and says “we’re throwing 600 years of knowledge away going back that argument”.

          As I said, the FE is the best psyop I think the ABC boys have evr came up with.

          It’s as intriguing as a hoax shooting and the Moon Landing wrapped in one.

          And as for Dub Micksters comment: I like fluoride, GMO, chemtrails, lead pipes and vaccines..yummy haha

    3. Flat earth appeared in a free form Friday several months back, and it had a pretty hostile reception. I believe someone was even asked not to return to MHB. I personally find the idea worth investigating, as there is some compelling evidence.

      1. I think it is pure BS myself but then again if it is so easily dismissed it shouldn’t be hard to refute, and I am simply taking a hard look at this,
        there are so many ideas running around I simply don’t have time (or the energy) to research them on any given day, the number is up on this story and I am taking a few days to look at it-thanx for your patience:)

    4. Most hypotheses of a flat Earth are not worthy of much attention. At any rate, we all use the flat Earth model all the time in our everyday activities. It is only when long distances (typically beyond 100 km, maybe 10 km on a calm ocean) are considered that the curvature starts to impose minute corrections.

      As such, flat Earth fanatics deserve more scientific respect and less scorn than 9/11 fanatics. The former’s theory is compatible with ordinary life, while the latter are obviously terribly wrong when they summarily dismiss as irrelevant the video record of Building 7.


    5. Sunaj57, Your analysis is corect. Discredit existence of an actual conspiracy by making up a nutty, untrue one. Easiest way to discredit flat earth: The idea rests on certain visual observations & all assume that water is always flat. Obviously water is curved on the planet due to gravity.

      They tried to discredit SandyHook, too– they planned to discredit investigators in advance. Here’s what they did. They had Wheeler play the part of a swat/FBI man. He acted squirrely as if to avoid being photographed. His “uniform” was unlike the others. Then, to be absolutely sure he was recognized, a photo of him and other security was used on cover or front page of FIVE media. But before using the photo, they altered the EARLOBE of Wheeler in the photo. Since he’s wearing sunglasses and a helmet, this change is enough to “discredit” the internet video that identifies him.

    6. I think that flat earth is way more valid than spinning ball earth. It only takes simple math to realize that we can see much further than we could if we were on a ball 25,000 miles in circumference. When you factor in the ridiculous lies of NASA and the lack of real photos of the ball earth, plus thenatural properties of water (always maintains a level…not a curve)..flat earth is not to be dismissed just because it puts you firmly in crazytown. It’s also obvious with only cursory observation that the moonlight is totally different than sunlight and cannot be a reflection of the Sun.

      1. Sara, you are being foolish. Water certainly doesn’t retain the shape of a plane (perfectly flat). Why the effect of the MOON’s gravity on it causes it to deform enough to produce tides. An El Nino occurs when the trade winds change from West to East to blow in the opposite direction. When this occurs the water stacks up a foot or two deeper against the continents to the East of CA. Now if the wind, and the weak gravity of the moon can deform the water, don’t you think our own much stronger gravity can? Take a half-bowl of water & lightly swirl it; the edges will rise up from that tiny bit of centrifugal force. Water obviously responds to gravity; that’s what lets you take a shower.

        Over water you can see about 3 miles. Where is the inconsistency with the circumference of earth being 25,000 mi?

        If you watch a ship disappear at sea, it doesn’t only get smaller & smaller; it also drops DOWN over the horizon.

        A plane, at altitude over the ocean, lets you SEE the curvature on a clear day.
        Don’t be taken in so easily. Always look for the strongest presentation of BOTH sides of a controversy.

        1. You actually can see much further than 3 miles over water. Sometimes up to 100 miles depending on the clarity of the day. The moon’s effect on the tides is a theory and has never been proven; certainly the moon does not reflect sunlight; the properties of sunlight and moonlight are totally different. Anything closest to the horizon disappears first…this is why the hull of the ship seems to disappear first. Get out some binoculars and it will magically reappear..impossible on the ball earth.

          You don’t know anything about me. I’m not one to be taken in easily..but I’m also not about to hold onto a belief despite evidence to the contrary just because everyone else thinks it’s crazy.

        1. Exactly, common sense; trust your senses. You’re right, the THEORY of gravity couldn’t possibly hold a FE in place spinning around the sun. It’s so irritating when people dismiss FE out of hand, and tell people they are foolish, or worse. How do you know what you know, except that you were told? In a community like this, where people should know better and should respect inquiry, it’s discouraging. There are plenty of very intelligent, open-minded people who are willing to look at FE and examine it as a possibility. Unless you’ve personally been to space, and have seen for yourselve, none of us really KNOW. Let’s show a little more respect for those willing to think outside of the box we’ve been taught to stay in.

        2. Let me play Devil’s advocate for a moment,
          in physics nothing is as it seems,
          we have been in new territory for 100 years,
          and there is quite a bit of division, and little real hard theory for many axioms of physics,
          so suggesting you can debunk FET on the basis of common sense
          seems insufficient,
          however from the propositions FET claims I see no basis in it personally,
          and as soon as there is a clear link indicating that this FET Group is really out of CIA/Tavistock by myself or another user the issue can be put to rest IMO

      1. No Mathis does not believe men went to the moon. He is smeared 24/7 by many who apparently don’t bother to read what he says. That is because he is a first class mind and subsequently must be marginalized.

        His summation of wiki mandarins.

        “Another example is Wiki’s suppression of fact in regard to “conspiracy theories”, even in biographical entries. For instance, the biographies of Brian O’Leary and Ed Begley, Jr. have both been edited of easily proven facts, and the editors have explained these edits in very strange ways. Brian O’Leary is on film stating that NASA may have faked the Moon landings. This is important since O’Leary was a NASA astronaut and science advisor for many years, including the late 60’s. Until recently, Wiki was preventing this fact from being included in his bio, and now it mentions it only to dismiss it as an “out of context” statement. But if you watch the video, there is no context in which the statement could be seen as pro-NASA. If O’Leary has since changed his mind, due to pressure from NASA, fine, tell us that (and provide a checkable source). But don’t try to pretend he never said it. ”

        In fact even hobby scientists realize no technology existed at the time to pass through the Van Allen Belt. NASA is still now to this day researching how to get a man past it without killing him.

    1. That’s it. Miles is officially a Nut Case with this Faul McGear nonsense.

      “They” were faking the photo’s of Paul and Mike way back in 1948…Right.

      And John is really Ringo. It’s just like the Flat earth theory, it’s a psyop to rot your brain…..

      1. Haha Dub…..

        Mike McCartney has been around all through the ’60’s and know to be Fauls Brother.

        MI6 didn’t start planning the “Beatles” in 1942 to kill off Paul and make “Mike” “Faul”.

        I do choose my “Rabbit Holes” with a grain of Salt.

        This one is a Dead End and designed to trap you in a capillary off the “Hole” where you can’t make your way “Back to the Heart” if you know what I mean.

        Think circulatory system….

        I think these are really Psyops designed by the Alphabet Boys’ just as flat -earth and so many others.

        1. INTEL..Haha

          I can’t help but get a kick out you..

          If you weren’t in FLA we could have a Beer. I’m a prisoner of SoCal, Haha

        2. I am going to have a warsteiner right now and then drink an extra one in your behalf.

          I don’t know why that one got caught up, there was no link in it. I just mentioned that intel liked twins. Sharon Tate had a look alike twin sister who was not a twin. Then there is Linda and Terry Jamison the twins who are supposed to be so pyschic that predicted 911, appear on saturday night live and Art Bell with all the hoopla. They were into Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism, yeah right. 🙂 Tipped off ahead of time more likely.

          Remember Paul who was knighted by the Red queen also made the hit song Helter Skelter. That is a tip off for sure on the Manson thing. The Beatles were definitley M-16.

        3. They’re after you Dub…….

          The Jesuits and the Zionist’s got your Number..haha

          I think the Mormons might be Hot on your trail too….Hahahahaha

          Kiddin’. No offense to anyone.

        4. So much work and investigation on the McCartney story, seems unusual for some one who isn’t really ‘ interested ‘ in the story.. There are so many ‘ assumpions” .. and no real facts. In the 1950’s children were dressed the same..they looked 18 months in age differance on the photo’s… Mike being taller and bigger than Paul…. I know a lot about twins.. and they certainly were not twins.. in my opinion… This is just a distraction, another ploy to muddle the waters.. it was an extensive piece to read through..Of course Paul had doubles.. if he died in an accident or not.. some one has the proof.. Ask Paul..or who ever he is…….

      2. Intel agencies love twins and look alike, especially twins as they will display the same DNA.

        Linda and Terry Jamison are perfect examples, appearing on Art Bell, billed as the psychic twins, predicting terror attacks on the federal buildings and the world trade center. They were also on ABC interviewed by the great Juju Chang, predicted JFK jr would die in a plane crash, Al Quaida would attack Britain, France and Germany, appeared on Saturday Night Live in skit with Maxi Cohen.

        It was supposedly Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism that “raised their consciousness! They also made predictions for Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg.

        They predicted a terror free olympics in London 2012 along with many other predictions. Were they psychic or let in on the program? But yes intel agencies love those twins.

        Sharon Tate did not have a twin but sister Patti was a look alike and was rumored to have died in a non publicized funeral before Helter Skelter. The gist being Sharon Tate did not die and simply assumed Patti’s identity. living on the beach in Malibu. Charlie could be next door for all we know, appearing once in awhile with Geraldo for interviews.

        And exactly who made a hit song of the alleged Manson killings and Helter Skelter, why who else but Sir Paul McCartney with the Beatles hit recored “Helter Skelter”. And he goes on to be knighted by the red queen.

        This one looks like a home run and no brainer. It is well known the Beatles were M16.

        1. Here is a candid observation by one who has served in the USAF…”Captain” Scott Kelly certainly doesn’t strike me as anyone who has ever had a sniff at that high of a rank. The first time I laid eyes on him,I thought he was an enlisted man…I still do. He just doesn’t have that “commanding” presence of a high ranking officer.

        2. I don’t see where you’re going with that comment Ray, but as an old sailor you Airmen were always the caviar and cappuccino sort of folks.
          And you lived for 5pm shift endings and weekends. Just saying..
          s why I love my wife,she does know to to take it easy and relax and she was taught so well by the USAF.

        3. Doublespeak Ted…looks like you lucked out with such a well trained wife! 🙂 Actually,my favorite uncle was a full Commander(a WW11 pilot) and displayed more leadership authority than many Flag Officers I’ve ever seen…he had charisma,in spades.However, since you mentioned caviar…come to think of it,the SOS DID have a distinctly peculiar and salty flavor. I will just be damned! hahaha Thanks for your service,sir.(I was in Nam in 1970)

        4. I agreed with you on WW 2 officer leadership skills and personalities. Give me a “Mustang” Flag Officers anyday over a ROTC grad or weekend warrior who would rather employ academic SOP`s than common sense.

          And my apologies on my assumptions of your culinary choices, I meant MRE and noodles for service in NAM. And thank you Sir for your service during one of our darkest period of warfare. Two of my uncles served during that period in the RAF. (Desert Storm-OIF for myself)

    2. Twin? That reminds me of the “Challenger disaster survivors” that’s being hyped on the net. I think this is a “conspiracy theory” to discredit the idea of conspiracy theories. The story is full of twins and look alike brothers, etc. Anyway it’s not worth following cuz it’s not provable. I think it’s phoney cuz I don’t see any point to dissimulation in this case.

  10. I don’t beLIEve in beLIEf.

    The very act of beLIEf should be considered a sin. I don’t beLIEve in Jesus. I don’t beLIEve in Satan. I don’t beLIEve in Science!

    I don’t beLIEve in Tracy, Fetzer or Halbig.

    I don’t beLIEve in Buddha, Siddhartha, Vishnu, Yahweh or G-D.

    I don’t beLIEve in civilization, government, money, religion or philosophy.

    I don’t beLIEve in Darwin, Pasteur, Einstain, or Sagan!

    I don’t beLIEve in Clinton, Trump or what’s-his-face.

    BeLIEving is the most insane thing that people have ever chosen to do, maybe with the one exception of cannibalism.

    I THINK.


  11. I received this message from a friend yesterday where he started making stuff up about Sandy Hook. He’s now in the category of contemporary history deniers so far as I’m concerned.

    “I have repeatedly said I’m not interested in your crazy opinions that Paris was a drill and no one died in Sandy Hook. I consider you people who subscribe to such theories as loony Holocaust deniers! Sandy Hook death certificates from the Freedom of Information Act request show that children killed died from shots in the head. Enough of this stupidity. It’s horrid!”

    1. “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.” -Frantz Fanon”

      It is much easier to fool someone than to to convince them they have been fooled … Mark Twain

      I usually lump organized religion, organized labor, and organized crime together. The Mafia gets points for having the best restaurants.
      Faith is spiritualized imagination

      To me faith means not worrying. ~John Dewey

      Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood let alone believed by the masses. – Plato

      A conspiracy theorist is someone who questions the statements of known liars. You don’t need a conspiracy when most everyone is educated to believe the same thing and consider themselves knowledgeable.

      There are many who do not know they are fascists 
but will find it out when the time comes.”

      Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls

      For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, please know that the current pandemic of ignorance and arrogance is quite purposeful. It is induced — by the Universe itself — for the protection of the masses so that their ignorance has become bliss. The bliss that comes with not knowing the grim realities which abound everywhere one looks.

      Cosmic Convergence

      It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets… Voltaire

      “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” JFK

        1. Sunaj57,Apparently there was much discussion…resulting in JFK’s “elimination”.

        2. Well that’s a point, I mean I never saw any real public discussion about secret societies, when Gingrich mentioned secret societies it became sensational

      1. The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

        Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.


    2. @Marzi

      I have had to write off a few myself as simply casualties of the Kali Yuga! 🙂 If they are lost in nutsack city and refuse to listen you just have to let them go. One in particular, an old college friend. He did a tour in vietnam, lost part of a finger in an artillery piece etc. Capt in the marines.

      I began a small probe about 911. He said I don’t believe that shyte! I could see that as he could not even begin at the lower level of the matrix, he was hopelessly overwhelmed. Hemingway was correct.

      There are many who do not know they are fascists 
but will find it out when the time comes.”

      Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls

      1. Thanks for all the quotes and info. I think what it boils down to is the person who can’t question the status quo has a problem with the brain not able to cross over. This is described by John Dean The Conscience of a Conservative. I have another friend with the same problem but he is nicer about it and asks me to mention any developments or analysis about Sandy Hook in particular. He has a friend who has a friend who supposedly lost a child a SH, and he even went to a funeral, so my friend’s belief system has been overwhelmed with a real life situation about a false situation. The other problem is that people don’t read history enough, and certainly not these two, or they would automatically know that people are expendable to governments and they are criminal based with fluff in the form of art and culture.

  12. I have a question about Sandy Hook. If the school was actually closed in 2008, shouldn’t this be the end of the hoax? Did the school reopen in time for the incident? Was it open or not in 2012? Can anyone verify this? Thanks.

    1. Gary, regarding your question, you would think we wd be able to prove that Sandy Hook School was closed, but often the plans for hoax like this are long-standing so that no newspaper announcement of the closing took place. Many p wd know of course: neighbors, firemen from nearby firehouse. But proof is hard to come by. Here’s a few things that are highly suggestive: Not a single bit of internet traffic from school, no announcements fo any functions there, not listed on shool list for newcomers to town, even a few shots of the parking lot showing it to be empty on at least a few school days. There are even photos supposedly of the inside showing it to have been used for office-type storage.
      Years ago the place had asbestos and mold which required remediation, but these were never done. Surely the board of education cd be required to give sworn statements concerning identities of all the teachers & students & substantiating that the school was open. Who are the bus drivers who claim to have driven there; what route did they drive? To what schools were surviving Sandy Hook students re-enrolled? Were there add’l teachers hired there? Sill personnel there affirm the presence of transferred students? Does the budget show transfer of tax funds from Sandy Hook? But all of this is difficult to acquire if FOIA is not honored. Can you think of any way to prove or compel statements from local or State Bd of Education? Right after lots of p tried to go in and ask questions, but were diverted by police.

      If it really happened it wd be snap to supply all the proof requested. The fact that they won’t confirms it’s phoney. But proof?

  13. It also looks like Napoleon was running with the wrong crowd. His uncle was a cardinal.


    The policy may seem confusing but has not really changed. The goal was no relationship between Russia and Germany which would be a major road block on the way to the NWO. Stalin and Hitler were both tools of the Tavistock Institute and designed to destroy both Germany and Russia with as little damage as possible to Rome and London. It worked very well. Now the goal is the same, Germany with their technology cannot befriend Russia with their military and vast resources. So we have mass immigration to Germany. No German technology to Russia, in fact no Germans, no problem. The Germans are to be bred out of existence through mass immigration and a European super state created with a population that knows no national identity. Yes Hitler was a Rothschild and Stalin was a jesuit priest. The goal is the same, the technique and methodology only change.

    “Putin said that mankind has been manipulated to become “unconscious” through the use of programming by media and politics, the perfect example of which was the recent Panama Papers leak. The world’s ruling class have tyrannical control over our food, water, and air supply, and they are actively dumbing down the masses.”


  14. Just as a reminder, similar events experienced by professor James Tracy or taking place in Europe. The German dictatorship under Angela Merkel threatens to take the children of those who oppose unlimited immigration on facebook.

    Chris Spivey is basically told to shut up or they will take his grand children.


    Chris Spivey had the audacity to question the official Government Narrative of the events surrounding the ‘murder’ of Lee Rigby in May 2013. Instead of offering irrefutable evidence to challenge his analysis, the British Establishment finds him GUILTY of ‘Harrassment’ without offering any real evidence, plants obscene images on his computer, then threatens to make him homeless … and take his grandson into care. Welcome to Stasi UK in 2015! Please support Chris when he appears for ‘SENTENCING’ at Chelmsford Crown Court on Thursday 27th August 2015

  15. Mick that seems like a pretty good article on FET,
    however there is no link between FET and CIA/ Tavistock,
    except the authors simply stating that is the case,
    I think once that link is brought out this FET can be quickly laid to rest,
    thanks for the post

    1. For over fifty years, I have been presented with a clear evil candidate that I must vote against at all costs even if the other choice is not much less of the lesser of two evils. Certainly Killary is pure evil. I like what Larry Nichols had to say about this in a recent interview. He said he did not know but at least we have a “might” with Trump.


      Excerpt from Protocol 10



      In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.
      By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country? …
      In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some “Panama” or other – then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president. The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours – the majority of the mob. Independently of this we shall invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war. We shall justify this last right on the ground that the president as chief of the whole army of the country must have it at his disposal, in case of need for the defense of the new republican constitution, the right to defend which will belong to him as the responsible representative of this constitution. (Iran? Grenada? Kuwait? Iraq? Panama? Somalia? Bosnia? Kosovo? Indonesia?)


      1. I just don’t get this Larry Nichols character,
        all of his diatribes about the Clintons ring true,
        but how is it Nichols is positioned as some truther? He was the mastermind behind the Clinton’s dirty tricks, it would follow and according to his own testimony he is a murderer, thief, traitor, etc.-why is he treated like some whistleblower for truth?
        I would have to conclude he is very likely working an angle here,
        he even has the audacity to have a donation collection on his site, begging for handouts that is), now that has to even outdo the Israelis in hyporcrisy and criminal behavior
        (which is not to knock your post)

        1. Larry’s claim to fame is “He knows where all the bodies are buried” and if Killary gets the nomination he will spill the beans….

          They don’t seem too worried. He even gives out his home address to send donations.

          I guess their Ex-White House Personal Chef that the Clinton’s knocked off last year after she announced her Pres. run knew more than Larry.

          What does that bring the Clinton’s death Toll to..43?

        2. Larry Nichols has been speaking out for several years. At some point, he just got totally disgusted with the Clintons and his own complicity with their evil games. I do not know what made that turning point happen, but I believe he is a sincere man.

          He has terminal cancer, of the throat I think. Was probably a heavy smoker. He wants to do penance so to speak. He wants to make amends for his former evil deeds. He has nothing to lose at this point so he tells all.

          He said on that interview of him I posted that he hates to ask people for money but Greg Hunter insisted on helping out on that and Hunter helped with the links. Nichols always gives out his real home address in Conway Arkansas and his real phone number and his email address.

          He is going for broke in working to NOT LET KILLARY get elected. This man has watched that witch’s evil deeds for at least twenty years. I remember years ago he was saying how when Chelsea was a little girl, it was Bill who took care of her and paid attention to her. Killary had little to do with her child. Not having that mother around her growing up was probably a big boon to Chelsea’s wellbeing.

          In that interview by Greg Hunter he said that he had gotten a lot of people to contact their congress critters and the top party operatives and threaten them that if they mess with vote counting and do not let Trump get all of which he is deserving, that they will expose and raise the riot act all of the place and do whatever they can to make sure that congress member never gets elected again nor hold any government job at all. That campaign was very successful and “the gang” stop messin with Trump’s votes and delegates and such, so Nichols is weilding quite a bit of power.

          Nichols claims he has more dirt or ammunition on Killary and Bill that he has not used yet but he will use it at the appropriate time. He said other people also are holding some damning facts about Killary and Bill and they will use them at strategic times.

          Nichols said he has really no idea if Trump wins if he will carry out on his campaign promises but he said with Killary, we know one hundred percent what we would get and it is total evil bad news on Americans and the world. He said at least we know Trump MIGHT try to do what he says he will do and at least we have a MIGHT on which to justify voting and voting for Trump.

          I am undecided about voting but if I do I will vote for Trump. Even if Trump is a good candidate and may try to do right, there is the cabal that won’t have a bit of that, so Trump would get a little trip to Dallas and that would be the end of him.

          I posted Protocol 10 of the Learned Elders of Zion to show the very real possibility that “THEY” may already have the outcome of the presidential election all sewed up. We need to take that real possibility into account.

          I find it odd that no one on MHB commented on that posting on Protocol 10.

          We must stand up for truth in every way we can and consider all our options, and we need free and open discussion to come to some clear thinking on the dire situation of our nation and the world.

          This posting is long and will probably be in moderation a long time.

          At least I tried.

        3. I agree Dash.
          He seems real and we know he was there.

          We are not allowed here to talk about the election.

          But, Please People.

          Just this time VOTE. It may be the last time you ever do. It’s not beneath you.

        1. Elfmom55

          Am I understanding you to say here that someone here at MHB changed what you posted?


          2016 election: Who will you vote for president of Israel? Trump or Clinton


          Election 2016: Who Will You Elect President of Israel? Trump, or Clinton? Zionists


          I hope I am not understanding you correctly. If I am, that explains why my latest posting is in moderation limbo.

        2. CORRECTION by DachsieLady

          MHB may have CHANGED ????

          THIS as submitted posting here on MHB by Elfmom55

          Election 2016: Who Will You Elect President of Israel? Trump, or Clinton? Zionists


          THIS as posted here on MHB

          2016 election: Who will you vote for president of Israel? Trump or Clinton

        3. I meant the video that showed up was not the video I posted. I seriously doubt MHB had anything to do with it. It happened a few times when I USED to be at “Nodisinfo.com”.

        4. So this is the video you meant to post…?


          It is an important video.

        1. Aw precious! Of course I remember! I asked about your friend a couple weeks ago but you didn’t answer. I figured you were too heart broken. I’m SO happy for you she is back.

        2. How Sweet. I live Nature/animals.

          Since me Son moved out with his Pitbull (which I love, the Birds are back and the ground Squirrels. I have “Big” mama Possum come out at about 6am clear her little babies out. (they are cute too)

          I Love it.

          I’m in the City so to say but nature abounds regardless. I even have Raccoons that come and go here???


        3. @ Ric
          I am a former breeder of Rottweilers. I had two big females. Once my son was about 11 years old, one night he ran out of the shower and said dad the rotts are killing somebody in the back yard. I ran out back and they were gone. My daughter came out and said dad a guy ran up the street and got into his car after jumping the fence. He was looking at his leg and going oh my God help me!

          My son said the little female locked onto his leg and drug him down, then the big one straddled his chest (most likely to keep the little one from killing him) she was like that. He finally got loose and jumped the fence.

          My son said I told you there was I guy now and then feeding them hamburger over the fence. He though he could steal them, oh what a surprise he had.

          I don’t trust pits however, they are hard to control. Our pilot in Yuma bought a young one. I walked into his house one day after work and it locked onto to my boot. I said Howard if you want this dog, get him off my boot!

          One day that pit busted through the screen door and was about to attack a teenage girl walking just before he called her back.

          Another guy I worked with bragged about his pit until once day he locked onto to his three year old son’s face.

        4. A certain percentage of large dogs typically pit bulls, shepherds etc. have the propensity for uncontrolled rage with certain triggers,
          as a pit owner I think the pit bulls get a bad rap, not for the damage they do because they are very powerful animals, more like shredders-but they actually have a better record than many other common breeds,
          an owner should know and be able to size up a pit bull,
          I also would have no compunction putting certain pits down,
          some critterz just don’t belong among humans

        1. In your particular case, this has to do with YouTube banning or removing the Paulstal Service channel, done within last 48 hours I think.

          YouTube is sprinting naked the last mile.

        2. OH NO!!! Paulstal Service is one of the best in my book! This is VERY bad news for me! Thanks

  16. London Elected it’s first Muslim Mayor last week and lo and behold, we start this week off with all the Lorries posting billboards Praising Allah.

    I bet a million bucks they would Never allow anything that reflected a Christian saying or Bible quote.

    Bye Bye London…..

    “London’s Iconic Red Buses To Declare ‘Glory To Allah’”



    1. Just remember that Cameron and Boris did nothing to stop the Sharia law offices from operating illegally all over. Thanks Ted for Noise below.

    2. It say to the left of the sign ” gather the rewards of Ramadan” and on the right “donate now” . As i understand Islam , Ramadan is the time of year that families come together and celebrate..similar to Christmas in the Christian diary ..this is also the time of year Muslims donate to charity as part of their religious duties. Please dont be so ignorant . I lived in a mainly Muslim country for 9 months and witness how a country celbrated all religions and their seperate holidays and celebrations ..with out anyone blinking an eyelid ..so God bless America in not a christian saying? Freedom of speech is the crux of this website is it not?

  17. “As Henry Kissinger is said to have remarked decades ago, “If you control the money, you can control the entire world.”

    Now do you understand how a small International mafia can control the world?

  18. I could be way off (a distinct possibility), but I seem to have noticed a recent shift away from the tired “fanatical Muslims” trope in U.S. mainstream media (likely because it is losing its efficacy…like a drug taken for too long) and towards the North Korean smoke and mirrors.

    The trouble with painting N. Korea as an existential threat to the U.S. is that we have for so long denigrated their economic system as being cruel, backwards, worthless, etc.

    The paradox, then, is when two streams of propaganda from the same source (U.S. intelligence) completely contradict each other in the sandy arena.

    North Korea cannot be both a country of crumbling infrastructure and simultaneously the avant-garde of nuclear weapons ingenuity.

    It is the same type of paradox which has typified the War “on” Terror and made it so easy for thinking people everywhere to oppose such a war simply from sniffing the stench of ludicrous media manipulation which has surrounded every battle in the war. Every movement and statement has been disingenuous.

    The War “on” Terror is therefore patently counterfeit. Every day the populace wakes up to understand this more fully, the war is lost to a greater degree.

    At some point the poor schmucks who fought this war are going to come looking for the policy wonks who sent them into harm’s way. They know how to use the Internet. They know how to write down a name. They know how to read a map.

    Woe unto the shortsighted everywhere who have spurned ethics. The soldier-worship illusion will not placate the warriors for long.

    Academia and scholars save their necks by standing up well in advance to prevent flanking maneuvers such as Sandy Hook gun grab psyop.


  19. Speaking of mind control through language-
    I was contemplating former relatives, which we affectionately refer to as “clan,” when it suddenly dawned on me that mind controllers have linked this family reference to something much more associated with hate, death and murder;
    the destruction of white society (one of many societies) is one benchmark the controllers are accomplishing in order to bring to pass their plans of a Soviet-style communism to all countries

    1. So Dr. Tracy gets fired for displaying courage and character and this truly subversive quAck is tenured for teaching students and teachers that the white race should commit suicide??? Where was the uproar for fraud when he was teaching this?

  20. https://diversitychronicle.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/progressive-professor-urges-white-male-students-to-commit-suicide-during-class/

    “If you are a white male, you don’t deserve to live. You are a cancer, you’re a disease, white males have never contributed anything positive to the world! They only murder, exploit and oppress non-whites! At least a white woman can have sex with a black man and make a brown baby but what can a white male do? He’s good for nothing. Slavery, genocides against aboriginal peoples and massive land confiscation, the inquisition, the holocaust, white males are all to blame! You maintain your white male privilege only by oppressing, discriminating against and enslaving others!” Professor Noel Ignatiev, a tenured professor at Massachusetts College loudly proclaimed to his class last Monday, his final teaching day before retirement. “

  21. Selected remarks by the President at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner;

    It is an honor to be here at my last — and perhaps the last — White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

    You all look great. The end of the Republic has never looked better.

    If this material works well, I’m going to use it at Goldman Sachs next year. (Laughter and applause.) Earn me some serious Tubmans. That’s right.

    Savannah Guthrie, she’s left the White House Press Corps to host the Today show. Norah O’Donnell left the briefing room to host CBS This Morning. Jake Tapper left journalism to join CNN.

    You might have heard that someone jumped the White House fence last week, but I have to give Secret Service credit — they found Michelle, brought her back, she’s safe back at home now. (Laughter and applause.) It’s only nine more months, baby. Settle down.

    And yet, somehow, despite all this, despite the churn, in my final year, my approval ratings keep going up. (Laughter.) The last time I was this high, I was trying to decide on my major. (Laughter and applause.)

    I love Joe Biden, I really do. And I want to thank him for his friendship, for his counsel, for always giving it to me straight, for not shooting anybody in the face. (Laughter.)

    As you know, “Spotlight” is a film, a movie about investigative journalists with the resources and the autonomy to chase down the truth and hold the powerful accountable. Best fantasy film since Star Wars. (Laughter.) Look — that was maybe a cheap shot. (laughter.)

    Bernie, you look like a million bucks. (Laughter.) Or to put it in terms you’ll understand, you look like 37,000 donations of 27 dollars each. (Laughter and applause.)

    I want to thank the Washington press corps, I want to thank Carol for all that you do. The free press is central to our democracy, and — nah, I’m just kidding! You know I’ve got to talk about Trump! Come on! (Laughter and applause.)

    Just a reminder these are remarks made by the current President of the United States. I would encourage all to read the entire transcript.

    And as a comparison to how far we’ve fallen, here is JFK’s speech to ‘The American Newspaper Publishers Association’.


        1. If the article isnt a psyop it seems odd Ringo would come forward like this. I wish Paul or Faul well whoever he is and I dont think it detracts from their creative work, but I can see that it would be a huge legal problem for Faul if he aint Paul. I mean what about his fortune…?

        2. Taking the red pill can be very depressing,
          if this is true one of the world’s great institutions has been outed as a fraud, and the band members we lavished so much of our love and adoration have turned out to be trixsters, at best,
          a sad day indeed…
          (unless this is just a publicity stunt-how are Ringo’s sales doing these days?)

        3. “Former Beatle Ringo Starr”

          Once a Beatles, always a Beatles.

          You can’t say “Former CIA agent” Cooper Anderson….

          He’s one of them..haha

          PS: Dubs, did you know Yoko was really Fauls wife?

          I saw it on Intranet….hehe

        4. Billy Shears says Ringo is senile! 🙂


          “This denial by Paul McCartney will certainly not bring an end to this story, however, as many investigations have already been initiated to determine is true identity, After the British MI5’s announce on Tuesday, the speaker for the Berlin public prosecutor’s office, Michael Grunwald, confirmed on Friday to reporters that the office is also investigating claims that Sir Paul McCartney could be an impostor.

          This investigation in Berlin comes after Ringo’s allegations have brought an unexpected twist to a 31-year old paternity case in Germany, concerning Mr. McCartney. Back in 1983, Sir Paul was ordered to give blood samples for a DNA paternity test after Bettina Hübers claimed to be his illegitimate daughter. “

        5. Paul”s Lawyers told him to pay her but not to submit to DNA so he wasn’t admitting guilt.

          Like a No Contest Plea.

          Paul has a few out there he pays so this is nothing Special.

          I’m sure Mick Jagger pays more a year for silence than Paul.haha

        6. Wow!
          If true the knighthood of Faul is invalid.
          Paul/Faul and the others havent confirmed it yet but
          I cant see why Ringo would come forward with a lie about it now.

        7. Peter,
          Ringo Never said any of this to any magazine Nor did Paul Ever respond.

          It was a hoax with a Fake magazine that didn’t even exist.

          Paul is alive and well, doesn’t have a twin brother.

          “They” create these rabbit holes to see who they can distract from the Real World.

          Flat Earth has been “their” best work so far to date IMO.

        8. The photos look like they were taken a few years appart but of the same person. But I couldnt say 100%.
          Anyway if the article is fake, no reason to bother.

        1. Dub,

          The White album and Abbey Road were written after 1966,

          So are you saying you like Faul’s songs over Paul’s?

          Of course I’m kiddin’

          I’m coming to FLA and you can drink your “weird” beers, I’ll drink me Miller Lite with a side of Chardonnay or Vodka and Red Bull and we will discuss the Rabbit Hole,911 SHE and all the Fun things..

          And, I can “Dig” the Ducks. ( get a fun goat)..haha

    1. This Scum Bag even had the audacity to say “he felt bad” for being a Pawn scum Bag participating in a $3500.00 a Plate Fund Raiser for Crooked Hillary….AFTER he got his “Cut” while people are Starving and Losing their Homes. Oh, such a loving leftie.

      True NWO/Globalist/Hypocrite/Demon Rat Scum…………….

      I know what your all saying. Ric, Tell us how you Really feel..haha

      1. Please clean your plate dear
        The Lord above can see you

        Don’t you know people are starving in Korea
        Alcohol and razor blades poison and needles
        Kindergarten people, they use them, they need them

        The over-indulgent machines were their children

        There wasn’t a way down on Earth here to cool them
        ‘Cause they looked just like humans
        At Kresge’s and Woolworth’s

        But decadent brains were at work to destroy

        Rats in battalions were ruling the street scene
        Generation landslide
        Closed the gap between ’em

        And I laughed to myself at the men and the ladies
        Who never conceived of these billion dollar babies

        Militant mothers hiding in their basements
        Using pots and pans as their shields and their helmets

        Molotov milk bottles heaved from pink high chairs
        While Mother’s Lib burned birth certificate papers

        Dad gets his allowance from his sonny the dealer
        Who’s pubic to the world but involved in high finance

        Sister’s out till five doing banker’s son’s hours
        But she owns a Maserati that’s a gift from his father

        Stopped at full speed at one hundred miles per hour

        The Colgate invisible shield finally got ’em

        But I laughed to myself at the men and the ladies

        Who never conceived of us billion dollar babies


        1. My kids feel the same way about me mick, but you have to accept that some dig deeper. Not saying I always get it right, but I wont hook on for emotional reasons and I think you do. I dont have pet theories, I’d rather prove myself wrong the sooner the better. About Yaegers sources, I’m not sure but the other alternative seems part of the oversimplification inherent in a large body of the present discourse. Peter Frost writing on unz review discusses Calvinists and Azkenazi jews as both having been subjected to iq-enhancing evolutionary effects due to their competitive role among businesses. It doesnt matter in that connection whether the Calvinists were bolstered by… The idea is that they had the capacity for longterm planning. Without social safety nets successful business families had more children and you get the picture. Consequently you have one branch of anglosaxon culture and one jewish which have come to dominate the world. I have no final opinion I just think it fits better with the facts than other simpler ideas.

        1. I also see Yaeger as controlled opposition. But the angloamericans want to push Germans towards sympathy for nazism right now.
          German revisionists seem honest to me but they havent understood the extent to which nazism was copied from Britain and radicalized by them. And that is the part of the truth that angloamerica fears more than unverifiable rumours about the Rothschilds. There is another interesting article about the purported false flag by Hitler’s forces refuted here:
          Note that the British used a captive SS-officer to sign a concocted confession but was never allowed to stand witness at Nuremburg.
          This guy’s name was Naujocks as in Now jokes. The british have got humour.

  22. “I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious.”
    – Albert Einstein

    “Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.”
    – Voltaire

    “But here we must make an important qualification. The news event may be a real fact, existing objectively, or it may be only an item of information, the dissemination of a supposed fact. What makes it news is it’s dissemination, not it’s objective reality.”
    – Jacques Ellul

    And a few of my own;

    One man’s coincidence is another man’s plan…
    One Nation’s coincidence is a secret society’s plan.

    It is not; “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few…”
    It is; “The greed of the few steal from the needs of the many”

    The dumb criminal gets caught,
    The smart criminal gets away clean,
    The devious criminal frames someone else.

    Overpriced markets correct, rigged markets crash!

    First, one must Free themselves!

  23. From the side news feed http://www.naturalnews.com/053289_GcMAF_holistic_doctors_mysterious_deaths.html

    I had pondered whether there was something deeper than just the immediate profits motivating the Vaccine State. Wow. What if it’s true? Article doesn’t say when such a deliberate poisoning might have started…but it might explain why only a certain element of researchers touching on autism have been targeted.

    Anyone notice how quiet it’s been?

    1. I am reevaluating vaccs for us and our animals,
      the profit motive is very apparent, they have us vaccinating our horses 2x a year which seems ludicrous to me, not much of a vaccine if it only works for 6 mo,, then we had an experimental vacc given out for one disease that had 30% adverse reaction to it which is completely unacceptable,
      this doesn’t even include the other issues of mercury and other heavy metals, preservatives that are toxic

        1. Yes I believe my beloved Lab died from commercial dog food, I am finding out the quality control is toxic,
          I am in the process of making my own pet food now

        2. I make my cat’s food for the most part. If anyone is interested I will share recipe. Ingredients are approx.

      1. I quit vaccinating my cats about 10 years ago. I couldn’t afford it and felt guilty. Then I started learning the truth about them. One is about 12 and very healthy. The other is almost 4 and the only vac she’s had is a forced rabies when she was spayed. They are healthy as can be.

        1. I too won’t vaccinate my adult dogs anymore. We’ve had a lot of dogs through our home. I would still vaccinate a puppy for distemper and parvo. I’ve had a pup survive parvo and it was horrendously painful for her and expensive for us. My husband cooks for our senior pit bull and senior Cairn terrier – both rescues. Backup food is Wellness or Blue Buffalo. Our pit has hemangiosarcoma and is being treated with acupuncture and Chinese herbs (my pet insurance pays!!). The Cairn has luxating patillas but is too old to have surgery to correct.

      2. 20-page excerpt from the book “Neohygiene”

        by Dan Hall

        Do bacteria cause disease? Do viruses?

        “What if I told you that they didn’t? Does HIV cause AIDS? Do immunizations prevent disease? Does anthrax, Ebola, E. Coli, the Hanta virus, smallpox, influenza, the West Nile virus, or any other so-called deadly pathogen cause sickness or pose any deadly threat whatsoever? What if I said the answers to all of these questions was no? What if I were to tell you that no matter how many sick people you come in contact with, you can’t catch disease? Am I insane? Crazy? Nuts? The truth is, we’ve all been duped into believing a theory-the germ theory of disease-that just isn’t true. We’ve all been tricked since birth into embracing the idea that when we are around someone who is sick, we can also become sick, regardless of how healthy we are at the time. Call it what you will-brainwashing, hypnosis, or whatever-this trickery runs so deep until we never notice all the times when we are around sick people and we don’t catch their illnesses. We only remember the times when contagion appears to occur, and this only strengthens our belief in disease transmission. This belief, of course, is not true. We have been convinced of the existence of vampires and ghosts, and now, more than any other time in history, we must open our eyes and stop embracing the lies we are being told.

        Scientists since the late 1800s, including Louis Pasteur, have all been part of a rather disorganized conspiracy to convince the public that the true cause of disease is pesky germs. Of course, there was no real conspiracy. Medical practitioners have also duped themselves into believing these deceptions just as much as they’ve duped us into believing their irrational propaganda. The germ theory of disease came on the heels of the Middle Ages when people believed that demons and evil spirits caused all diseases, so it wasn’t that big of a transition to go from demons to microscopic bacteria. The belief in viruses came later, but they don’t cause disease, either. Wait a minute! Am I saying that Ebola, HIV, and other viruses don’t cause disease? Am I saying that anthrax, pneumonia, and other diseases are not caused by bacteria? The answer to both questions is a resounding yes! Viruses and bacteria cause disease about as much as trees cause the wind to blow. It might look like this is the case, and that’s why scientists have duped themselves into believing such a fallacy, but in truth, health is caused by healthy living. I can’t transmit my bad health any more than I can transmit my good health. It’s easy to blame germs, but what we should be doing is blaming ourselves when we get sick. We’re responsible, and that’s something a lot of people just don’t want to hear.

        I know what I’ve said so far is pretty hard to swallow. After all, you’ve believed all of your life that diseases are caused by bacteria and viruses. You’ve believed that the common cold is contagious, that the flu can only be prevented by vaccination, and that Ebola, AIDS, anthrax, and other dreaded diseases are highly lethal and to be avoided at all costs. But you’ve been tricked into believing all of these myths by a medical establishment that has been built upon the shaky foundation of the germ theory of disease. Combine this with the fact that the business of medicine is just that-a business, and a rather large and profitable one, to say the least-there’s no mystery as to how an entire establishment of medical practitioners could fall prey to the same deceptions they have used to deceive us into believing in their scare tactics and lies.

        It wasn’t that long ago that a guy by the name of Louis Pasteur convinced an entire nation-and eventually, the entire world-to believe in his germ theory. Most people think of Pasteur as the guy who invented pasteurization, but he was responsible for so much more. Men like Pasteur, Edward Jenner, and Robert Koch are among those responsible for the perpetuation of both the germ theory of disease and the theory of immunization-two ideas that have set the foundation for the vast majority of today’s medical establishment. With so much resting on the backs of these two outdated theories, it is interesting to note that they are rarely tested under strict scientific scrutiny; instead, they are oftentimes believed to be true without question, making the belief in the medical model more a religion than a science. What’s worse, the germ theory of disease as well as the theory of immunization are both outdated, erroneous, and unnecessary in today’s world. Both ideas were even questioned and opposed at their inception, but dissension fell on deaf ears. The truth is quite the opposite from all you have ever learned, and slowly but surely, the truth is making itself known-truths such as the AIDS hoax, the lie of childhood immunization, and most importantly, the myth of contagion.”

        Read more…

  24. Look what they done to my lake, people.

    I used to live at Lake Tahoe in my youth. If you know anything about Tahoe, it’s probably that it’s one of the most beautiful places on this earth. It’s blue, blue, blue. Blue mountains, blue lake, blue sky.


    When there were clouds, the non-stormy kind, they looked like this:


    or this:


    I’m visiting the area now, and I was incensed as I sat on the beach on the first day and watched several jets deliberately criss-crossing the sky at right angles, pouring out chemicals over my beloved lake and the rest of the High Sierra. The sky filled with a haze that I had never seen in these mountains before.



    When I lived here, the environmental concern was that the water would become less clear because of development. Well, the water is still clear, and the official environmental concern now is that Tahoe will end as we know it because of climate change.

    Not much official concern about the chemical pollution coming from the sky. There are local, grass-roots activists tracking the chemtrail activity here and making noise, but they get about as much credence as any other truther.

    It’s sundown on the lake, and it won’t look like this anymore.


    1. Toni.
      Those are some beautiful pics.

      They already explained Chem-Trails.

      The Govberment decided instead of trying to make us take our Vitamin’s and Med’s they would just “Spray” them on us.

      A side benefit is it enhances Military Communications with all those heavy metals..Win Win

      Ya just gotta love ’em. They’re determined.

      1. Speaking of Chem-trails, I almost forgot.

        I went to my Daughters house in Tehachapi, CA, the middle of Nowhere, and they were Chem-Trailing just as hard as SVF La Basin.

        WTF? Trillions? 100’s of Billions?

        Everywhere is Big Place.

        1. Widington also claims modern jet engines cant produce lasting contrails. You have heard that from many sources presumably. But that is a shaky hypothesis. Modern jet engines are said to produce a billion tiny particles per cubic cm. They can be among other things soot and soot covered with sulphur(dioxide?) the latter apparently more effective for producing contrails. And modern engines are much more efficient so the particles are much smaller. Therefore they are transparent to sunlight and this means the sun doesnt cause them to be heated. Old engines produced bigger soot particles, which got hotter.
          This argument for longer lasting contrails from modern engines needs to be refuted before Widingtons theses that everything we see is deliberate chemtrailing, unless those abovementioned exhaust particles are proven to be deliberately caused by something other than unavoidable limits to effective combustion.
          Clean means smaller amounts of exhausts by weight not necessarily in terms of producing contrails. Now dont go ahead and question my sincerity, instead use it to ask more discerning questions.
          For instance why is there sulphur in the fuel? Is it too expensive to remove it? Why do modern engines produce so many tiny particles?
          Is combustion technology no better?

        2. I see chemtrails, but I don’t understand why the elite would poison the air. Don’t they breathe it too, along with their families?

        3. Real chemtrails, probably not what you see(?) may be military additions to the athmosphere to bend radiowaves so their radar can see beyond the horizon. Or for weathercontrol to augment absorption of emf to heat and evaporate the cloud layers etc. Or for climate cooling or heating.
          But since ordinary jet engines appear to produce enormous quantities of tiny particles there may be a quasistatic backround of nanoparticle dust most everywhere, since there is a natural mixing.
          Maybe this means even clean exhausts might produce contrails.

        4. Reply to

          Peter Grafström says:
          May 17, 2016 at 1:53 PM

          “Maybe this means even clean exhausts might produce contrails.”

          Maybe this means you are saying that even dirty exhausts might produce the things we see that we call chemtrails, but are simply contrails.

          Maybe this means you are saying that are host of very logical, relatively benign reasons that the military may be adding things to our atmosphere, none of which have to do with deliberately poisoning us our our air.

          All I know is that there are some jets that fly overhead that do not leave a prominent lingering “chemtrail” and those kind of jets can fly over at random times, day or night. And then there are jets that fly over that do leave a prominent lingering chemtrail. I can predict with almost perfect accuracy when the latter kind of jet with the suspicious kind of “chemtrails will start flying overhead in my skies, and that is on days when the sun starts coming out bright and the skies are becoming clear and blue. When skies are like that, here come the chemtrails.

          As to why “the elite” would poison the air they and their families breathe needs a bit of unpacking. I would say that the content and the purpose of chemtrails may bode well for all humans, but not in direct poisoning of us kind of ways. Also, the real elites are evildoers operating from their master, Satan, and they don’t care a rat’s pitoody about their families of what is for the common good. In fact, they do not value human life at all, they only care about controlling all and controlling the world. At bottom they are nihilistic and are crazy to ultimately destroy all, even themselves.

        5. Yes dirty exhausts might just produce ordinary contrails, but older engine types were way dirtier only the hypothesis is that the dust was more coarse grained so sunlight would be completely absorbed and thus heating the dust so the contrails would evaporate much faster.
          I didnt say the military did anything benign. I said Widington takes it too far by claiming modern jet engines cant produce (lasting) contrails.
          And I pointed to two reasons for such contrails: the smallness of the ‘cleaner’ exhaust particles less affected by solar (or sky) heating and perhaps a quasistatic background of dust from the whole fleet of airliner’s which would provide condensation or sublimation seeds even for a completely clean exhaust. Of course such a background might play a role in military applications but that’s just speculation on my part.
          But I also saw reason for posing questions about the true nature of the modern engines. I even saw numbers like 10000 times more particles per cubic cms than the already high count of one billion particles/cm3
          Is that really the state of the art or is that a deliberate move not dependent of technological limitations.
          I have seen info about lasting contrails often not forming below 8kms?
          I seldom see any fast dispersing contrails here when they fly at march height but during descent and ascent yes.

        6. What is the purpose then of criss-crossing the sky?

          I watched as the jets, of which there were several, TURNED ON the trails overhead, and carefully cross-hatched the sky at right angles.

        7. CORRECTION:


          I would say that the content and the purpose of chemtrails may bode well for all humans, but not in direct poisoning of us kind of ways.


          I would say that the content and the purpose of chemtrails does not bode well for humans, but not necessarily in direct-poisoning-of-us kind of ways.

        8. Also, the common spelling of the erudite phrase “rat’s pitoody” is “rat’s patootie.”

          You’re welcome, Dachsie. 🙂

        9. And something else thats Very important.

          None of the Planes spewing the Chem-Trails are listed on Flighttracker as an active plane. None!

          Is their Transponders off? Or are they Military?

          Also, their flight paths are not typical of Any commercial flight pattern.

          They fly much lower than the 30k feet needed to produce a Real Ice Contrail, and criss cross in random pattern’s the FAA would Never allow,

          I think they are all Pilot-less Drones.

          There is more Air Traffic spraying chem-trails up there than actual people flying to destinations aboard commercial aircraft.

          So, not only are we getting Chem-Trails we are bombarded by Jet exhaust pollution. Where are the Environmentalists?

          Answer: The Govt. co-oped all those movements Years ago.

          The left Never complain about Chem-trails, GMO’s or Vaccines.

        10. spot on Ric about the progressives but I dont see so much of those dedicated sprayers myself. Once I did see what I believe to be the act of a drone, yet too small to see by the naked eye. I suspect a teaser phaps to tickle conspiracy buffs?

        11. Peter,
          I think you said you were from Sweden or that area.

          Consider yourself lucky they’re Not spaying you guys to death over there.

          I think they’re concentrating on the UK, EU, USA-Canada,

          I’d like to know if our Australian- New Zealand Brothers are getting whacked as we are.

        12. Maybe you’re right and they don’t care about the air they breathe, but it seems like it must be something deeper. I too have wondered if it might be drones as I can’t imagine pilots going back and forth all day to this end. A couple days ago I saw 4 staggered sprayers going along the same parallel. the direction these trails are laid is always the same around here. I have been staring at these things for the last 3 years, trying to figure out what and why. One thing I do know is that they rob us of energy and joy. When the sun is out and the sky is blue, I feel more energetic and optimistic. Days like I experienced today, where the sky started out blue and is white by noon, are a downer. And yes, why aren’t the environmentalists screaming about it? No one cares and that’s so suspect.

        13. Great Observation:
          “Maybe you’re right and they don’t care about the air they breathe, but it seems like it must be something deeper.”

          “They ” don’t care about anything but themselves.

          It’s hard to wrap your head around a Level 5 complete Psycho/Narcissist who is incapable of empathy at any level.

          I hope your sitting down for this.

          Congress and all the CEO’s and Movie/Rock Stars are all Victims just like You and Me!!

          That’s why they say nothing..They really don’t know!

          The People at the Top have no mercy, empathy or Humanity.

          Why do think they’re Devils?.

          I’m sorry but I have to laugh just to keep my sanity.

          We Win..in the End..

      2. Ric, I know chemtrails are already explained, and that you and I are especially targeted in LA. It’s nothing new to anyone here at MHB, certainly not me either. Intellectually, anyway.

        It’s just that it kills me to see it happening in the Sierra, a place I have associated my whole life with pristine nature. I could always find a place there untouched by human manipulation, where you could feel that nature was really indomitable.

        I don’t feel that way anymore.

        1. Haha Dub.
          You just can’t let it go..haha

          This fool is NOT John Lennon….

          PS: Paul’s still Alive….

    1. Obama’s Job is use the Cloward/Piven strategy.

      Every state, country is in some king of Legal battle with Federal Govt.

      Then he pits all the races against each other, floods our country with foreigners and illegal immigration then Ignores the constitution and causes pure Kaos through out Congress and the entire Judicial system.

      And with all our real problems he has the whole nation focused on Transgender Freaks using the Bathroom….

      The medias job is to use Saul Alinsky tactics to shut us up because if you care about anything or have a different opinion you must be a Racist !!

      The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national …

        1. “She is not a midget though, so there is still some work to be done.”

          Are we on the same Blog? Haha

      1. Yes, manipulation has always been the name of the game. The Cloward Pivan scheme is nothing but a new take on other such schemes throughout the centuries.

        We tend to call it the Hegelian Dialectic these days, which is

        problem, reaction, solution.

        Create the problem or use a problem that occurs naturally like when that freak in Chicago said never waste a crisis.

        Then let people start begging and groveling for the government to come in and put order and safety on the situation.

        Then the solution, the police state, is extra easy to install.

        Machivelli had basically a similar plan.

        From RadioLiberty.com January 2008
        newsletter by Dr. Stan Monteith

        “Who was NiccoloMachiavelli, and why is his political philosophy important today? Machiavelli was a member of the revolutionary government that ruled Florence from 1494 to 1512, and Machiavelli was forced to leave Florence after Pope Julius II helped the Medici family regain control of the city. In the years that followed, Machiavelli wrote The Prince, which established his place in history. What did Niccolo Machiavelli believe? He believed people are inherently evil, people cannot rule themselves, and a successful State needs an authoritarian ruler (a Prince). To succeed, the “Prince” must wage war, he must be willing to use deceit and cruelty, and he must believe “the end justifies the means.” Where did those concepts originate?” 5

        Basically, there are people in this world, usually noticeable in their behavior from early childhood who desire desire power, influence, prestige and money just too much. They are totally self centered and have basically two ways to get their way throughout life, each way without any sense of right or wrong, conscience, or empathy for other human beings, or value of humans over any other thing, such as a lump of dirt. Some are intelligent and crafty in their lying scheming, manipulating ways and others just become too ruthless and crazy physically violent in the enactment of the same lying, cheat, and stealing ways. The second type end up in prison vying for prison gang leader position. The first type end up the CEO of a large corporation such as the USA.

        The desire for the values of this world, power, influence, prestige and money, are what Christ calls mammon.

        Matthew 6:24 – No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

        1. “Although he is much-maligned today (like his and Leonardo da Vinci’s protege, Cesare Borgia), the Founding Fathers correctly saw Machiavelli as the first theorist of how a republic must fight a war, and they made his ideas about the militia standard U.S. military policy. They also recognized, like Machiavelli, that in dealing with oligarchies one must never be sucked into ‘public opinion’ games.”

        2. “the Founding Fathers correctly saw Machiavelli as the first theorist of how a republic must fight a war”


          There is nothing correct about Machiavelli, the Founding Fathers, the Borgias or the separation of Church and state. Just War theory is not in their brains, and probably not in yours.

          Your values appear very much to be mammon as described in my posting.

        3. It has got nothing to do with me and I trust those researchers more. If they say the Founding Fathers studied Machiavelli (and that is no big surprise since he has written classics in the field) they probably did.
          Machiavelli was an opponent of the Venetians who’s oligarchical system transmuted to Britain, and you ought not be surprised to hear that the Founding Fathers who fought the British would be interested in Machiavellis thoughts. Similar enemies.

        4. In warfare (and politics IS warfare) it is always necessary to study the philosophy of the enemy, or any potential enemy,
          the study of Machiavelli is part of one’s world education, what you do with it is something altogether different

      2. As I was saying of how King O’ is just trying stir everything up and cause as much arguments and Kaos…

        Here we go:

        Obama Appoints Transgender Leader to Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

        “Faith Based” The “Tranny” Man will represent all the Christians,and then a Sikh and Baha’i (Sandy Hook) also to the faith advisory council.

        I wonder which bathroom our Transgender Christian leader will want to use?

        He’s a “Beauty”…



        1. Dach,
          Your right. “who zapped it”.

          Administrator or Tracy, can you get my comment out of the “spam folder”?

          I rant on how Chairman O’bummer is 100% Cloward-Piven/Saul Alinsky.

          That’s why everyone is fighting everyone on one level or another.

  25. I think you have to be delusional at this point to deny geoengineering at this point,
    whatever the motivation the chemicals are toxic, period,
    frankly I think this leads to the possibility that we have an alien component,
    this looks like teraforming to me,
    we have basically the destruction of all life on earth taking place right now,
    and the system seems unable to respond (?)

    1. “The shocking adoption of an official (if secret) policy by the United States, of defining its own national security in terms of the reduction of population of other, poorer nations, represents the predominantinfluence, but not yet the core worldview, of the neo-Malthusians. Their policies are represented to governments in terms of economic or strategic coercion, the exercise of raw power of empires or superpowers to stop the development of other, competitor nations. But their core objective is sheer racial and class hatred, a desire to eliminate as many brown, black, yellow, or poor human beings as possible. Malthus himself, as a paid writer for the British East India Company, was an out-and-out petty thief, who plagiarized the bulk of his work from eighteenth century Venetian Giammaria Ortes. Using Ortes’s assertion that the Earth has a finite “carrying capacity,” Malthus wrote in order to abolish the poor laws in the British Isles, causing the death of poor children, and in order to justify a massive increase of looting of India, which led to the famines, drug wars, and population collapse of the nineteenth century on the Indian subcontinent.”
      Expressive quotes from the following people are on the linked webpage

      Thomas Malthus
      Bertrand Russell
      Prince Philip, … of Great Britain
      Paul Ehrlich
      Michael Soverstein, president, Environmental Economics
      Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation
      Thomas Lovejoy, World Wildlife Fund
      Sir Peter Scott, World Wildlife Fund
      Fritz Leutwiler, Bank for International Settlements
      William Paddock, US State Department
      Julian Blackwelder, The Environmental Fund
      Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs
      Michael Novak

      The Club of Rome

      Robert McNamara, World Bank

  26. As I have long insisted, WWII was a lit.


    “TAP – The British and the Americans rescued Hitler. Why? Because he was their agent, controlled by Martin Bormann, who was also spirited away along with vast wealth, extracted from Europe during the occupation. Bormann funded Peron, and many others, still working for the CIA into the 1960s. If you still believe WW2 was a real event, and not a manipulated one, you have a lot of work to do. Here is a good place to start.”

    1. A powerful quote from your article:

      “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

      1. I started researching this Tzipora Menache, and ran across this at rense.com:

        Warning – ‘We Control
        Americans’ A Hoax Quote?
        From Dick Eastman

        Subject: It’s a disinformation-bated trap Fw: Israeli Tzipora Menache: “We control the stupid Americans”

        The article claims it is a trap, when you log onto this particular site investigating this person you download a virus

    2. Even Hitler Jugend was built by the angloamericans albeit via Friends Service Comittee. Through their Berlin center they launched that youth movement which in the 1920s had already enrolled 300000 german youth in workcamps. The slogan “Strength through joy” was coopted by the nazis. The staff of Quakers continued through the war.
      I wouldnt call Hitler a genuine agent more like a dupe who believed they were partners. The american Astor family bought into the British Aristrocracy, controlled the important media and their home Cliveden became a place to gather when the Round Tablers where scheeming.
      Astor’s London Times of 8th september 1938 had the editorial: “The stinking Czech sausage should be crushed.”

  27. One of the issues of the Apollo Missions that wont go away are the Van Allen Belts,
    you can find videos put out by NASA themselves that state in so many words that they have yet to develop the technology that will shield people and instruments safely through the radiation clouds,
    yet these pesky space-prison walls didn’t phase any of the Apollo astronauts, using 1960’s technology in paper thin aluminum craft,
    I got to looking at a so-called debunking video and their revelation was the military did a top secret nuclear explosion in space years ago and it altered the radiation levels and-well to make a story short everything is O.K. now,
    I hope you all feel better, knowing that NASA is working on your behalf…

    1. The Allen belts only contribute a minor part of the radiation they will be subjected to during a Mars mission which is the real challenge for Nasa. By focusing on the Allen belts while actually seeking protection functioning during the longer and more unpredictable parts of the journey they provide the impression that once you get passed a finite barrier you’re saved. This has a positive psychological effect assuming they really intend to go to Mars with real human astronauts.
      The Allen belts but even more the occassionally very deadly solar bursts in interplanetary space probably contributed to the hesitance about going to the moon. But the real obstacle was that the rocket engines weren’t capable of handling the necessary high rate of mass cast out from the nozzles. The enclosure was destroyed by the chaotic combustion situation. The real booster for Apollo11 travelled much slower than according to the official data and that means there was no chance they could have lifted the necessary payload.
      But space science for the empire is mostly about military applications and they never felt any real need for that kind of rushed prestige projects other than for the prestige.

      1. The Van Allen Belts are deadly to living organisms and craft, NASA themselves state they have not developed this technology, which will be required before space travel outside these belts can be accomplished @ 3:00

        Also The deadly effects of the Van Allen Radiation belts is not the only deadly source of radiation,
        This is one of the main reasons why we know the manned moon missions are faked, there are of course countless other anomalies too many to cite here

        1. You didnt read my comment attentitively. Nasa aims for Mars this time.
          And you have to learn some basics. Dose= TIMExINTENSITY
          van Allen ~1hr where the worst part is much less. The rest how many hrs do you think and thats where there may be sporadic deadly solar bursts and developing protection in van Allen will function elsewhere too so they dont need to mention that. van Allen adviced to pick the path through the belts wisely.
          The booster rocket was the real problem and since they couldnt mend that fast enough they didnt have to develop the rest of the equipment.
          Instead of spending money on costly r&d that would never be used they saved it for ?

        2. A stunning new video has emerged 15 years after Stanley Kubrick’s death in which Kubrick admits that the NASA moon landings were faked.

          Filmmaker T. Patrick Murray interviewed Kubrick three days before his death in March 1999. He was forced to sign an 88-page NDA to keep the contents of the interview a secret for 15 years.

          Below is a transcript from the interview with Stanley Kubrick, in which the 2001 Space Odyssey Director admits on camera that, “the moon landings ALL were faked , and that I was the person who filmed it.”

          We have included a leaked rough cut of the interview below the transcript:


          Santa is not real, neither is the tooth fairy.

        3. I don’t buy your argument which is all about discrediting this issue, and frankly you’ll have to take it up with NASA, as the NASA engineer does not discount the “Deadly Radistion” as he refers to it,
          and of course there is solar radiation also to contend with,
          also not that one of the later Apollo missions performed their mission allegedly during one of the worst recorded solar flar events,
          yet not ONE astronaut was ever recorded as experiencing even mild radiation sickness,
          Werner Von Brann, the genius behind modern space flight talks about the Van Allen Belts and states the safe zone is 400 km

        4. You’re neither buying nor listening. We dont differ concerning solar burst. Neither do we differ about them never having travelled beyond LEO, if they travelled at all. The subtleties you fail to touch is the cumulative uptake of doseage. van Allen was the one to bring the subject to prominance but also the one to contradict those who interpreted his written account as proving the unfeasibilty of manned spacetravel through the belts.
          The belts dont surround the earth blocking every possible path. van Allen and NASA obviously took that into account when they planned the path. There is a detailed calculation for the accumulated doseage for that path by Braeunig.
          He is one of the believers but when he purports to debunk other parts of critique he never provides the amount of detail he does in the case of the van Allen belts. On this page ( http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm ) most of the paragraphs are without any indepth links, exept regarding the van Allen belts, apparently the only part he feels confident enough about to explain in detail.
          So in that particular case he really exposes himself to scrutiny, a good sign of honest intent.
          No matter whether you trust his calculations his graphics explain the issue with the paths.
          In mhb it is commonly the case that we suspect hidden motives. I suspect that robotic space travel is what they lean towards. If so they wont mind expanding a bit on the downside of manned space travel.
          Hoping for a conditioned reflex so the demand comes from below and not from the top. I’m not saying those directly concerned with radiation protection for the Mars project have such hidden motives but the mere fact that such concerns are being wheathered usually means it is approved by the mighty.

      2. Just so I make this point I think you are vastly misrepresenting and minimizing the deadly effect of radiation, I have posted a number of videos even from NASA, not to mention Werner Von Braun stating this very plainly, and you have done nothing but condescended in your replies, answered none of the information I posted, except to simply dismiss it on your own word without offering a shred of documentation (as if this was your private classroom),
        I get this all the time when discussing NASA, with people who either have some engineering, or are pozing as experts, and of course many are disinformation agents/sock-puppets,
        you get into the discussion, I post these obvious anomalies that critical thinkers are researching, and inevitably many of these people act like some kind authority and proclaim their version is the only correct one because they are some “expert in the field,,” which even if they were simply magically “saying it is so” don’t make it so,
        just on your say-so:)
        and of course what inevitably follows is the usual jibe about conspiracy theories, etc.

        1. Your answers give the impression of seeing me as someone who defends NASAs version. Of course you piss me off when you totally ignore everything I say. I am already familiar with everything you have posted. I have seen similar material before.
          This discussion is about the brief passage through the van Allen belts, remember, not about the general difficulties of manned space travel, where we have no obvious differences.
          And I tried invain to explain the basics of radiation doseage. But then you begin ranting about taking it up with NASA who you dont trust anyway.
          What regards the rest of the trip there was a risk of being exposed to a solar burst but even without that the mere stay on the Moon would have been unpleasant. There is information about ordinary cosmic radiation causing neutron showers from the lunar surface. I dont know how they measured it, perhaps from orbiting satellites.

    1. Why do we accept the “dancing Israelis” meme at face value?

      Why do we not at least fully consider the woman shown at

      1:11:27 of the Ken O’Keefe video I posted above as being a person playing a specific scripted role in 9-11 false event?

      Even Ken O’Keefe who is otherwise an astute and honest investigator and commentator automatically accept this unidentified woman as the real deal.

      Whenever we want to try to investigate the true day-to-day identify, life and history of a crisis actor BEFORE AND AFTER a false event, any false event, we always come up with only big zeros.

      Where is the unidentified woman of 9-11 who ostensibly busted the “dancing Israelis” today? How long had she lived in that apartment from which she recorded license plates and called the police?

      Why do we have to accept certain people and their testimony at face value and keep pointing to them as the honest key people who told the whole truth about the event.

      Same goes for the Jersey Girls. Where are they today? Could a neighbor come forward and say the Jersey Girl actually lived next door with their husband who was killed and that they knew them? So many questions that could be asked if we take for truth that each Jersey Girl, indeed each and every person we regard as crisis actors, was the individual as presented to us in the media, including widely in the alternative media.

      I just see a glaring inconsistency in regarding some people right off as crisis actors and likewise regarding certain people as the real deal.

      In my mind there could be a crafty intelligent reason why the plotters of 9-11 would find it useful to their lying ways to give a hint that the Israelis and the Mossad were definitely involved in 9-11. But be aware that that “hint” is crafted in such a way as to ultimately exonerate, or at least convey to us that they are our rulers and just suck it up, that the “good Israelis and the good Mossad and the good Jews” are above investigation and the rule of law.

      Just askin’ !

      1. Of course. The Master 9/11 conspirators are experts at grand-scale obfuscation. The conspiracy that they spread on purpose some Jewish-Israeli-Mossad-Zionist (JIMZ) clues so that they could later deviate 9/11 Truth into blaming JIMZ and manipulating 9/11 leaders to exhort their followers to call for actions against JIMZ has credibility.

        I have proposed that analysts who wish to find guilty people for 9/11 should not look at the handful of Israelis, who, if they were not actors and did truly take part in the 9/11 conspiracy, were dumb enough to be arrested, unlike the controlled demolitions’ chief engineers, the providers of nanothermite, or the financiers of 9/11, who have remained completely unknown. This is particularly amazing in the case of the chief engineers: very few engineers had enough competence, experience and energy to successfully lead the largest controlled demolitions in history. A skilled investigator would identify them with a very moderate amount of work.

        Accordingly, analysts who experience a drive to name names of principal 9/11 actors could simply organize this easy research.

        Of course, the context of the “who did 9/11” question is that the most dangerous 9/11 conspirators are not the chief architects of the preparation, execution and cover-up of the false flag, but the chief architects of the 9/11 censorship, the breathtakingly huge and remarkably effective process that makes socialists, Muslims, university professors, pacifists and “rogue” potentates ignore 9/11 Truth. Interestingly enough, they have managed to get anti-JIMZ bully pulpits to censor 9/11.


        1. Thank you for being the one person on this blog who at least thinks what I presented deserves deeper thought.

          I personally could see a mountain of data that would point the accusatory finger at the JIMZ, and I guess I was frustrated that we could never come up with any solid looking evidence or data that would slam-dunk the JIMZ culpability. So when the dancing Israels meme miraculously presented itself many 9-11 truthseekers were glad to have some real meat to glom on to and continually site as “proof” the JIMZ were heavily involved.

          For myself, I always had a gnawing feeling that it was just all to convenient. The caught dancing Israeli Mosad culprit guys were just too easily “caught” and turned in and then released to be on TV in Israel braggin on their feat. That unidentified woman in the video is the person who set up this whole little 9-11 sub-plot. The blatancy and in-your-faceness of this whole story just sets off my fake-o-meter bigtime.

          All of our work trying to prove that a person is or is not a crisis actor, from any false event, is very deficient and almost thrown completely out the window, if we accept our “investigation” and “objective evaluation” of this woman as a crisis actor. We too easily bit the bait on this one, in my opinion.

          The JIMZ as main perps in 9-11 is still an important hypothesis in my mind and it was dealt a serious death blow by the way this whole dancing Israelis thing was treated.

  28. Re: the Apollo Missions, and those researching NASA-
    I got into a discussion with some pro-NASA users re: the LM,
    I found this interesting video of a LM training vehicle, 1 yr before the 1st Moon landing piloted by a Neil Armstrong, the Apollo astronaut :


    After the discussion these guys are saying the training vehicle is nothing like the LM, which could not fly in Earth’s gravity/atmosphere, so they decided to test it in space along the way (?) how they were able to practice landing on a celestial body safely, take off and link up with the orbiting spacecraft wasn’t explained, not to mention carrying all the extra fuel for such maneuvers, this explanation being ridiculous,
    my initial thesis was the utter improbability of sending a man to the moon, walk on the moon, blast off from the surface, reunite with the orbiting space craft and safely return to earth-all the while entering and leaving the deadly Van Allen Belts in an aluminum foil thick spacecraft, all with 1960’s technology-
    in a lunar landing vehicle that NOT ONE ASTRONAUT HAD EVER FLOWN, that had no proof of being reliable or able to sustain flight (I can find NO videos)-imagine the impossibility of carrying out successful lunar missions SIX TIMES FLAWLESSLY, with machines like the LM, that had NEVER been successfully demonstrated to work, that no astronaut had ever flown before-
    in an attempt like this the probability is abysmal of such an operation going smoothly without catastrophic results


      1. Dreams die hard, Mick,
        many a space enthusiasts still cling to the dream
        of space flight and what NASA was supposed to be,
        lots of chat support NASA and truthers are gang stalked

  29. Nobody can say google does not have a sense of humor.

    May 3, 2016 – When a man came up to Candice Spivey in a Target store, she recognized him as the man … Watch woman chase convicted voyeur out of Florida Target store … Spivey gave chase yelling “stop that man” and “call the cops.
    Missing: dublinmick ‎flees


  30. Quote
    G. K. Chesterton
    approximately one hundred years ago.

    Journalism is a false picture of the world thrown upon a lightened screen in a darkened room so that the real world is not seen and the unreal world is seen. We live under a secret government conducted by a secret process called publicity.

  31. Dr. Tracy,
    why is it you cannot reply directly to some people’s post?

    Mr. Grastrom I do get what you were saying about radiation dosage,
    Its rather impossible to get clear information on dosage,
    exact data on the Van Allen Belts themselves, I have heard that this information has been more or less scrubbed from public view,
    while I have seen that there appears to be “openings” from the poles its my understanding they couldn’t and did not use this path,
    my references are about the Apollo Missions only,
    although I am reading a lot of reports that suggest the Mars Mission is also a hoax, I haven’t reached a conclusion,
    If you put all the pieces of the puzzle together, such as radiation threats, the LM never having been tested, tinfoil thick walls, 6 perfect moon landing on untried impossible technology, batteries running everything, flawed spacesuits, etc. I don’t have much doubt it is a fraud,
    I originally started studying this subject after i had learned of the many other State sponsored frauds foisted upon my countrymen, including The Federal Reserve Hoax, I would include Global Warming also (man made)
    Any time the Federal Gov has complete control of an entity, and control all the information with billions of dollars, involved you can bet there is some chicanery going on,
    A diabolical Criminal Syndicate runs the West and they have their greedy little hooves in everything

    1. I get that you believe the Apollo trips to the moon was a hoax and so do I. Why do you keep repeating that redundant info.
      Breunigs calculation is detailed and the van Allen data are not scrubbed.
      Doseage: from the back of my mind, not exact but good enough

      To simplify a bit it is the absorbed energy per kg of body weight.
      5 J/kg kills you before not too long.

      Natural background radiation dose per year~0.003J/kg in the Us according to wiki
      (In 75 years that means 0.23J/kg)
      Nuclear industry workers maximum allowed yearly dose 0.05J/kg
      Acute radiation sickness for 0.25 J/kg
      Lets assume the intensity of radiation in the worst part of the belts is 10000 times more than natural background and that they spend 15 minutes in that part then the dose is 10000 times more due to intensity but about 35000 times less due to the shorter time.
      Altogether we get an increase by less than 1/3 of the yearly background.
      15 minutes at 11km/s ~ 10000km meaning they escape the worst part.
      The whole dose is obtained by adding the dose from the rest of the path.
      If they wanted to orbit the earth within the belts in a stationary situation it would be a different matter. In one year the dose would then be 30J/kg. In two months they would get 5J/kg ie death would be unavoidable. In about a week or less they would experience acute radiation sickness

      1. Well only nuclear engineers are qualified to argue such equations,
        but in light of the evidence I posted by NASA THEMSELVES and experts like Dr. Van Allen, and the prime mover of the Space Program, Werner Von Braun have stated distinctly that radiation is deadly and the technology has not been invented for space travel-
        perhaps you might want to argue those equations with NASA engineers-they said it

        1. I have that kind of educational background and have no difficulty in following the linked argument. I havent studied the source documents with the detailed radiation map for the van Allen belts but I see no reason to doubt Breunig about that since for most of his debunking he doesnt show anything quantitative. It is exceptional that he brings forth so much detail about the belts so he’s got to be sure in that case.
          But that notwithstanding you are stubborn like a mule and are seemingly completely blind to the comparatively simple basic idea that you have to multiply by the concerned TIME INTERVAL. von Braun wasnt interested in the moon, he already had a fullfletched Mars project in I think 1953.
          In a previous comment I gave you some quantitative comparisons for different time spans of exposure to radiation showing how 15 minutes might be ok while several months in the same environment would mean a certain death. In case of a Mars trip the numbers would be different but the effect of the time span would be equally grave.
          Von Braun planned for ten huge spaceships and for to have them assembled in an orbiting space station. Since we know the booster rocket never worked according to official specs we may conclude that von Brauns approach using a spacestation and many successive launches would have had a much better chance for success. For the Moon without the intermediary of a space station, he estimated a much bigger rocket (8 times heavier) but that was over a decade before Apollo. And Apollo was mostly a prestige trip if it had been carried out. von Braun wanted more scientific value and hence a heavier payload was needed appart from matters of engine technology.

  32. I’m a big fan of naturopathy, but looking at these prices I can’t help but believe people are really getting screwed without being kissed on these prices-you would think it was Rockefeller medicine

    1. sunaj, are talking about kratom? Perhaps you should look into dosage before you leap to a conclusion and declare people must be “getting screwed without a kiss” by “rockefeller medicine.”

      $7.99 an oz provides about 25 to 28 doses for me. Pretty cost effective, if you ask me. Especially for a substance grown in Southeast Asia, and then imported and sold as fresh as it is.

      Even disregarding the cost, the power of kratom to allow people to control their opioid intake and thus avoid pharmaceuticals, not to mention alleviating addiction in many individuals, makes this a wonder drug, in my opinion.

      1. Yes I was talking about kraton and in general,
        surprised you are getting that many doses at that price,
        guess I’ll look at kraton prices again, seemed like the prices I saw were quite a bit more than that,
        but in general i think the industry is really exploiting prices

        1. Not everything is a completely top-down conspiracy that so many here believe controls every damn aspect of the world.

      2. Toni,
        I just got Zapped. Check this out. It looks Real.

        Follow the archive link.

        Believe it or not, Mrs Clinton’s problems are only just beginning.

        The Huffington Post “accidentally” posted an article announcing Mrs Clinton’s indictment. This premature article was promptly taken down, naturally.

        One can be amused by this shooting of the foot – until, that is, one reads the article. HuffPo might have deleted it, but, of course, it isn’t gone. Nothing ever is from the internet.


        1. It appears to be Real for ALL the Links after the article Work and direct to Huff Post !!!

          The Media does this kind of stuff all time. Remember NBC “ accidentally” put that graphic up showing Obummer winning Romney 2 weeks Before the Election?

        2. EXCLUSIVE — Huffington Post Writer: Editors Deleted My Article on Hillary’s Imminent Indictment, Disabled Me from Writing
          By World News Politics –
          May 30, 2016
          WASHINGTON, D.C. — A writer for The Huffington Post is still waiting for an explanation as to why editors deleted his piece reporting that the FBI will pursue an indictment against Hillary Clinton.


    2. Well I did take a second look at Kratom,
      the strength of the extract differs wildly from different sources, even different trees, and the dosage is highly individual,
      so it looks like this is pretty reasonable after all, on the kratom

  33. This is an Archive of a Article that was accidentally posted the Huffington Post.

    It appears to be Real for ALL the Links after the article Work !!!

    The Media does this kind of stuff all time. Remember NBC “ accidentally” put that graphic up showing Obummer winning Romney 2 weeks Before the Election?


    Saved From:

    All snapshots
    from host http://www.huffingtonpost.com

    Hillary Clinton to be Indicted on Federal Racketeering Charges
     05/29/2016 01:12 pm ET | Updated 29 minutes ago

    James Comey and The FBI will present a recommendation to Loretta Lynch, Attorney General of the Department of Justice, that includes a cogent argument that the Clinton Foundation is an ongoing criminal enterprise engaged in money laundering and soliciting bribes in exchange for political, policy and legislative favors to individuals, corporations and even governments both foreign and domestic.

    I don’t know but it looks Real….????

    1. Ric,

      It looks like it was a ‘contributor’ article that somehow got posted by a freelancer? Do you have any idea how long it was up before you noticed it went poof? My guess is that it was probably flagged by one or more people as ‘abusive.’ 🙂 The HuffPost and its commenters are pretty shill-acious (yeah, I know it’s not a word) for Clinton. Interesting that it was there in the first place, though.

    2. This reminds me of Kevin Annet saying the Queen and Pope being served arrest warrants or Joe Arpiao and Trump going after Maobama and his Birth Cert. or Wolfgang Halbig and SH.
      In other words, I’m not holding my breath.

  34. You can’t understand geopolitics until you understand the Russian Mob, er, the Jewish Mob, which is the same thing, the largest international MUIRDER INC on the planet bar none (the Sicilians are paper tigers comparatively),
    did you know you pay Israel $4,000,000,000 annually (and QUITE a bit more actually) in welfare, and it is LEGAL to have non-Jewish slavery in Israel? This i s a crime against all Americans

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