Filmmaker, Author Sues Big Media Over Sandy Hook

I’m afraid that most lawsuits involve an actual, measurable injury. The likelihood of a case being thrown out without any litigation because the plaintiffs cannot state that they have an actual tort done against them personally which can be relieved by the court’s decision. Is this someone seeking injunctive relief? It would be prospective then, against future actions. But since the deeds are federal-based, the court would have to be a federal court, since a state cannot bind the feds in most cases.

In this case of fraud, there are actual injured parties, and these include people who donated money to the families of the alleged victims. This is a garden variety situation – for instance where some co-worker claims he has cancer and sets up a website where friends can contribute to his medical expenses, only he is well, a liar, and he pockets the money. Even if someone else set up the website (as here, where the so-called parents are crisis actors) you can treat all the fraudsters as your defendants.

I just think this is a less-than-effective publicity stunt, which will have no legal teeth whatsoever. But good luck. Unfortunately, like Sandy Hook itself, the purpose is to cause controversy and stir the pot.

Those who have read Sandy Hook and BMB as ways of justifying government policies of control of the citizenry, suspending the rights of citizens under the Constitution at their whim (after all, there’s an endless war on, with an authorization of force dating from 2001 and a real crossing of the Rubicon of imperial power), are correct. It therefore follows that ordinary legal channels with not provide relief.

Filing a suit can be done by anyone. What happens next will depend on several factors, the skill of the lawyers being one important element. I wish them all the best. I do not want to criticize this effort in any way.

I have my own ideas about how one would go about this but, any landing is a good landing.

I am deeply disturbed by those who seem to want to “take sides” on various researchers and activists. This is not a ball game and, while I suspect that is at the root of those who like to do this, it is not about “you”.

The thoughtful commenters at this site are not providing their comments for self aggrandizement. Many have different styles and fundamental beliefs but they are trying to get to the truth of the matter and shed light on it.

Maligning the character of those who devote so much of their lives to the search for truth is neither productive or appreciated. Those who think this is a “publicity stunt” should take solace in the fact that “publicity” is precisely what is needed.

I hope that, should the initial effort fail, there will be continuing efforts. I suspect this is not going to be easy. I wish them the best. Please let us know where to send donations.

My comment is not on this topic but peripheral to it. On Christmas Day it dawned on me as I wondered again how Americans can be so oblivious to the obvious. Maybe because in our culture we start programming our children from toddler age on to believe in their ‘first’ hoax–SANTA CLAUS. Then you can add the Easter Bunny and tooth fairy hoax. All these perpetuated by the people these children trust the most and are the ‘authority’ figures in their life. The brain programming happens effortlessly as little kids up to a certain age can’t distinguish between fantasy and reality. It wouldn’t be surprising then that anything told by an ‘authority’ source takes hold so easily. If I had to do it over again–I’d go for the truth right from the start.

Release December 25th? Now I’m wondering if this is legit

Plausible. I’ll withhold final judgment on this for now, but I recall former Governor Jessie Ventura (long before he went bat-sh*t crazy) once commenting that he had his people research the 16th amendment to the constitution (the income tax one) and discovered that it was never properly ratified but forced through by Pres. Wilson’s congress anyway. I mean, this was 100 years ago, LONG before the internet and the days of “we promise to put any bills out there for a month for review by the public before voting on them” turned into “we have to pass the bill before we see what’s in it.” How was anyone going to check on its legitimacy if Wilson’t people lied about it? Exactly like the FOPA (aka HR4332 of May 1986) passing by a voice vote at 30 seconds to midnight except VIDEO evidence shows it did NOT pass but, signed into law by Pres. Reagan, it is still held valid in the courts. Our government lies. Manipulates data, and information flow and the mainstream media is complicit in this. It is quite likely that the “massacre” at Sandy Hook elementary was indeed a put-on. A staged exercise with professional actors brought in to portray anguished parents (several of them also showed up in other “tragedies” before and after), the media-government complex, willing to do ANYthing to disarm, to enslave “We the People,” pushing the agenda on a 24 hour news cycle day in day out and you know what? We’re not buying it. More people are in FAVOR OF firearms ownership – of all types – now than before this event. I’ll cling bitterly to my guns and my bible for now, and watch how this turns out.

This is a well known fact to anyone who has done their research. It’s time for justice!

I applaud Shanley’s enthusiasm and bravado and admire his courage, but I am afraid that he is going to get crushed in this case. His complaint will be dismissed at the earliest opportunity.
Shanley doesn’t know what he’s doing. He didn’t suffer any damages, he doesn’t have standing, and many of the defendants have nothing to do with Sandy Hook. He doesn’t appear to have any idea how to run a trial or know anything about civil procedure. And how is he going to pay for it? If he deposes witnesses, that’s going to cost him several hundreds of dollars per hour.
If he’s the lucky, the complaint will simply be dismissed. If he’s unlucky the judge will call it frivolous and order him to pay court costs and attorneys’ fees for the other side, which might very well bankrupt him.

The better way to approach SH in a trial would have been to start with something small, such as challenging the tax-exempt status of various charities, or asking if the local county collected the proper property tax on the dummy house sales, or finding a local plaintiff.

There’s not going to be any progress in SH until we get real researchers who spend time gathering physical evidence of all the anomalies here and interviewing locals – birth records, photographs, school records, records on the phony parents and victims, that sort of thing. Instead, everyone seems to think the case can be solved just by googling stuff on the internet and posting youtube videos.