“Right now, what’s on the line in this country is whether or not we’re going to have the legal right in the future to make choices about federally recommended vaccines.”-Barbara Loe Fisher

On this edition of Real Politik James speaks with Barbara Loe Fisher, president and co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center, a non-profit charity established in 1982. For the past three decades, she has led a national, grassroots movement and public information campaign to institute vaccine safety reforms and informed consent protections in the public health system.

Loe Fisher has researched, analyzed and publicly articulated the major issues involving the science, policy, law, ethics and politics of vaccination to become one of the world’s leading consumer advocacy experts on the subject. NVIC is not “anti-vaccine,” as mainstream news media might encourage the public to believe. Rather, it is pro-safe vaccines and exists to ensure the informed consent of the parents and patients who chose to vaccinate.

One of the most important things parents can do is recognize the clinical signs of an adverse reaction their children may exhibit to one or more vaccine administrations. Understanding, for example, the symptoms of brain inflammation is essential “because brain inflammation has been associated with vaccinations since small pox vaccine” since the early 1900s. “Almost any vaccine can do that.”

When Loe Fisher’s son was two-and-a-half, he suffered an adverse reaction to the DPT vaccine.

I knew what my child was before the reaction. My son was extremely bright. He was saying words at seven months. He was speaking in full sentences by the age of two. He knew his upper and lower-case alphabet. He knew his numbers up to 20. He could identify the words in the books we read together.

Yet after the DPT shot, “he regressed, physically, mentally, and emotionally,” she recalls. “He no longer knew his alphabet. He could no longer identify words. He became very, very chronically ill, with constant diarrhea, respiratory and ear infections. He became emotionally fragile [with a] low frustration level, no concentration–he couldn’t concentrate for more than a few seconds at a time.”



Despite being well-educated and coming from a family of medical practitioners, Loe Fisher lacked sufficient information to identify the symptoms of her son’s adverse reaction. Not until she viewed the 1982 documentary, DPT Vaccine Roulette and consulted the professional literature did she realize how the medical community was well aware of the dangers the vaccine posed to children.

“There in the pages of Pediatrics, The New England Journal of Medicine, and The Lancet, were clinical descriptions of exactly what I’d seen that day. So the doctors were discussing with each other in the medical literature about what DPT vaccine could do to the brains of babies, but they didn’t tell the mothers, and that’s why I felt strongly that there needed to be an organization that would educate people about things like recognizing a vaccine reaction, so it can be written down in the medical record [and] reported to the government.”

[Image Credit: David Dees]

Dees_Vaccines1The 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which Loe Fisher was instrumental in the passage of, required that parents be informed of potential adverse reactions and that documentation be maintained and collected of such reactions, yet this is often ignored because there are no penalties for healthcare practitioners who fail to abide by the Act.

The United States is one of the wealthiest and most technologically-advanced countries in the world. It also has the most highly-vaccinated children and adolescents, with at least 95% of children entering kindergarten today following the full vaccine regimen consisting of several dozen shots. Yet such aggressive vaccination policies don’t translate to a healthier nation. “We have the largest number of children in our history who are suffering with chronic diseases and disabilities,” Loe Fisher notes.

I’m not saying that all of this is due to vaccinations, but you certainly can’t leave off of the research table the big question, which is, Has the increase in the number of vaccines children are getting in the last thirty years been a co-factor in the rise of the number of children suffering with things like learning disabilities, asthma, autism, and diabetes.

The major news media have made raising vaccine awareness a constant struggle because they typically frame the vaccine awareness issue in simplistic terms. “It’s been very difficult to do this work,” Barbara notes,

because there’s been so much opposition from those in positions of power–in government, in industry, and in the medical trades. With the media, it’s gotten very, very ugly since about 2007-08. At one point in 2009 the Secretary of Health and Human Services gave an interview with a journalist, and that journalist reported that [HHS] has instructed the media to not cover people who criticize vaccine safety, which would include me.

49dosesIndeed, the Department of Health and Human Services wields tremendous power in its oversight of vaccine recommendation and safety, while also maintaining close ties with the pharmaceutical industry. The NVIC has since 2011 been calling for vaccine safety oversight to be vacated from HHS,

because in the Department of Health and Human Services these public health officials are in charge of not only vaccine safety oversight, but they also license vaccines, they take money from drug companies to fast-track vaccines, they partner with drug companies to develop and share profits from vaccine sales, they make national vaccine policies that get turned into state vaccine laws, and they also decide which children will and will not get a vaccine injury compensation award. Our point is that it’s too much power for one federal agency.

Barbara Loe Fisher is co-author of the seminal book DPT: A Shot in the Dark (Harcourt Brace Jovanovich 1985); author of The Consumer’s Guide to Childhood Vaccines (1997); Vaccines, Autism & Chronic Inflammation: The New Epidemic (2008) and Reforming Vaccine Policy & Law: A Guide (2014). She is also a video commentator for the NVIC Newsletter and Mercola Newsletter, and a blogger at www.VaccineAwakening.blogspot.com. Loe Fisher’s long public record of vaccine safety and informed consent advocacy was featured in the 2011 award winning film documentary, The Greater Good.

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  1. Who is the real Eric Duncan in regards to the first Ebola case in the US? He is a top level Peace Corps Director and former Bank of America Vice President. Follow the lies, corruption, deceit and money trail folks. Eric Duncan is not some guy who just went to Libera and hopped on a plane home. He is a top level executive who knows medical protocol and could be paid to keep his mouth shut. Check out his LinkedIn profile yourself. Coincidence or not? Something smells rotten once again.


  2. […] “Right now, what’s on the line in this country is whether or not we’re going to have the legal right in the future to make choices about federally recommended vaccines.”-Barbara Loe Fisher On this edition of Real Politik James speaks with Barbara Loe Fisher, president and co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center, a non-profit charity established in 1982. For the past three decades, she has led a national, grassroots movement and public information campaign to institute vaccine safety reforms and informed consent protections in the public health system. Loe Fisher has researched, analyzed and More… […]

  3. The article specifically states that the NVIC is not against vaccines, but simply promotes the use of “safe” ones. This is an oxymoron. The illusion is created that it has been properly researched, even involving “science”. Personally, I can’t remember the last time a real scientist was allowed to speak in the mass media, but they do still exist. Since Ms. Loe Fisher prefers to ignore science, or is simply part of the controlled opposition, let’s look at some facts.

    The viruses that do exist are only interacting with one-celled organisms like the algae you swim through in ponds, rivers, streams, lakes and oceans. Those viruses are not remotely interested in multi-cellular organisms like humans, animals, birds and plants. Yet, we have been told that there are scary viruses that cause diseases like AIDS, flu, polio, measles, and Ebola.

    Since scientists have the burden of proof, Robert Koch established scientific criteria in the 19th century to find out if a pathogen exists, and if it is the cause of a disease (the Koch’s Postulates). In addition, for half a century laboratories have been sophisticated enough to perform the necessary tests, yet the medical profession refuses to play by the rules.

    Without any proof, we are supposed to believe in all these diabolical diseases. Since there are no viruses that cause AIDS, flu polio, and more, you cannot isolate them. However, you can fool people by showing them all sorts of pictures. For instance, during the H1N1 scare of 2009, the Pentagon released a picture that did not show a virus, but an ordinary cell part. Apparently, doctors do not know anything about the building blocks, i.e. the human cell, otherwise they would have seen right through the scam.

    Even if these types of viruses existed, i.e. the ones that interact with humans, the authorities would still need to offer scientific proof that the vaccines work, and list all possible side-effects. You cannot make an informed decision and give your consent to get vaccinated if the authorities refuse to supply you with the necessary information. In other words, the authorities are in violation of the Nuremberg Code.

    As far as all those illnesses is concerned, we have known for a long time that the Latin words “virus” or “contagium” were used interchangeably to describe a toxin or poison in the environment that made a lot of people ill. For instance, drinking from a well that had been contaminated with feces or a corpse would result in the “disease of the blues”. The nitrates and nitrites would make the blood less able to carry oxygen, and especially children would turn blue and suffocate. We continue to see this in AIDS victims in Africa. Many African nations have very high levels of pollution, largely due to multinational corporations who do not care. (We encountered a similar problem in an earlier article by Dr. Tracy regarding fluoride—“Poison is Treatment: The Campaign to Fluoridate America”). In the US, we have known since the sixties that pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) is the most defining characteristic of AIDS, and caused by the use of poppers (nitrites again). Without going into all the details, a lot of progress has been made to find out exactly which toxins, poisons, or sometimes nutrient deficiencies are responsible for the various diseases that are conveniently blamed on non-existing viruses.

    Instead of talking about “safe” vaccines, we should be talking about abolishing them. Apart from the fact that vaccines are useless in terms of preventing various diseases, they are very useful in introducing numerous diseases, and sterilizing the female population. We should focus on the prevention of malnutrition and the removal of toxins from our environment. The Industrial Revolution significantly reduced childhood diseases, because of cleaner drinking water, better food and hygiene. Given the current economic crises, we may be heading in the opposite direction, because of more malnutrition and the lack of clean drinking water (Detroit?).

    Thanks to the research of Dr. Stefan Lanka, and the hard work of many concerned parents who demanded an explanation from their local, state and federal officials, the “infection protection law” became operative in Germany in 2000. This law requires from the German government proof that a pathogen exists to justify vaccination (by adhering to the Koch’s Postulates). Without any proof of a virus, no lawful vaccination can occur, and will be considered a CRIME causing serious bodily assault. Other countries are also considering such a law.

    Sadly, here in the US, most people are still clinging to their religion and believe that these viruses exist. Louis Pasteur is one of the frauds who is responsible for all this nonsense. His “germ theory” was debunked more than a century ago. Of course, he was richly rewarded since the government enforced vaccination, and he manufactured the vaccines (currently Sanofi-Pasteur). Clearly a conflict of interest.

    For those of you who respect life, and would like to make up your own mind, the following information may be helpful:

    The German virologist and molecular biologist Stefan Lanka published in September 2001 with Karl Krafeld a book called “Impfen – Völkermord im dritten Jahrtausend?”.

    The German journalist Torsten Engelbrecht and doctor of internal medicine Claus Köhnlein, published a book in 2007 called “Virus Mania – How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits At Our Expense”.

    For AIDS in particular: http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/ and http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewsl.htm

    Dr. Stefan Lanka: http://neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm

    Interviews with Dr. Stefan Lanka: http://www.psitalent.de/Englisch/Virus.htm and http://www.whale.to/a/lanka_h.html

    For those who are interested in the damaging effects of vaccines:

    An Australian documentary “The Hidden Truth”

    The Canadian scientist and physician, Dr. Andrew Moulden, discovered that vaccinations are causing impaired blood flow (ischemia) to brain and body. The resulting strokes have led to an overwhelming rise in autism, specific learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, sudden infant death, gulf war syndrome, dementia, seizure disorders, some cancers, and more. The injuries from vaccination accumulate, ultimately causing paralysis or death.



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    1. Hi again annelies,

      wow, the Dr. Moulden video series is a hammer and explains just why vaccines are so destructive really, really well.

      Yes, we should ban them. I wonder if the the flu vaccine is mandatory for Dr. Tracy’s students? I bet it is at most universities in the States…

      Thanks again for the links. I will forward them…

    2. some people feel they accomplish more with baby steps. I believe (from memory, I could be mistaken) that Barbara did not vaccinate her younger children at all. some feel they can have an impact by reducing the damage done by the worst vaccines yet if they attack the entrenched dogma of vaccination as a whole they will be met with blank stares or dismissed outright. Mrs. Fisher has done more than about anybody in helping people understand that they don’t have to vaccinate and brought awareness to the damage vaccines can do.

    3. Your assertions that “viruses do not infect humans” and “do not cause diseases like AIDS, flu, polio, measles, and Ebola” are idiotic.

      The diseases you mention ARE caused by viruses, as are thousands of other diseases. Viruses are real and they most certainly DO infect humans, other animals, and plants.

      Koch’s postulates had to be modified for viruses, because in general you can’t culture them; also, organisms infected with viruses often do not show symptoms.

      See: http://books.google.com/books?id=Uk8xP5LRHr4C&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=%22Koch%27s+postulates+for+viruses%22&source=bl&ots=F7Hqb6V2bI&sig=hOC1f4_0KmnOhglDtO_f2RDLalo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Fj01VPyHCsaKyASk14DgAQ&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Koch%27s%20postulates%20for%20viruses%22&f=false

  4. Hi annelies,

    great links and book tips – I will pursue them! Thank you very much!

    Re Ms Fisher & her being “simply part of the controlled opposition…” – I always plead for a bit less harshness online. We don’t see each other and it’s so easy to react quickly. She may not yet be in a place that understands what you do, but I liked her approach of defending/fighting for opt-out legislation and she has several excellent ways of framing arguments that uninformed & ppl-on-the-fence can understand.

    I am very much for attacking the federal funding of PBS (Propaganda & BS!), which has an active pro-vaccination campaign going, which includes headlining an article: Report: No Link Between Vaccines and Autism and encouraging listeners to “shame” parents who don’t want to vaccinate their children.



    If invited again, I do hope that Ms Fisher has the time to address the effects of vaccinations on seniors (dementia!!!!). It sickens me to see the “flu shot” signs everywhere, knowing seniors are so vulnerable. I could not get my Mom’s doctor to even request to my father that he not to take my grossly underweight, 90 year old Mom in for a flu shot…(and Pops only listens to authority figures…), and yes, she has dementia.

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