By James F. Tracy
For two months Wolfgang Halbig has made the rounds on alternative media outlets to explain his doubts on the official narrative of the Sandy Hook massacre. Now the apparently well-intentioned school safety expert has proceeded to establish an online presence, where he has raised over $10,000 toward achieving “Sandy Hook Justice.” An appearance before the Newtown School Board is tentatively scheduled where Mr. Halbig will publicly demonstrate his indignation toward a cover-up.
In early 2013 major and alternative news media alike were beating a path to my door. Reporters quite literally chased me around my place of employment, hoping to obtain the scoop on the “wacko” academic who might recant on his observation that the incident in Newtown was likely a big fraud. Even Anderson Cooper fussed on national television that such an individual was employed at a “taxpayer-funded” institution.
Shortly after this flurry of attention certain parties contacted me and essentially proposed that they become my handlers. The idea was that I would be the public face of a detailed independent investigation into the Sandy Hook episode. For hours they attempted to convince me that the “Sandy Hook actors” were in fact members of the “Greenberg family clan.” They subsequently produced a professional-looking report that I was to tout.
I became increasingly doubtful of the thesis and how it might prove productive. My suspicion turned to alarm when the parties suggested that vigilante justice be visited upon the alleged Sandy Hook perpetrators. Even worse, a website was developed for the investigation that came dangerously close in name and terminology to mirroring a federal law enforcement agency—calling itself the “US Intelligence Information Center” and using jargon such as “suspects” and “persons of interest.” The individual then proceeded to essentially speak for me, posting the report and my name to social media sites. It was at this time that I sent the following email and discontinued further communication:
I was unaware that you posted the report on __________ and included my name and institutional affiliation. This was done without my approval, as was the posting of Sandy Hook Massacre Timeline on the website you’ve created. I am going to have to ask that things slow down and that my attorney review any further activity by you in which you use my name in any way. I also ask that you please not use my aforementioned Timeline.
As for the name of the organization, “US Intelligence Information Center” and website http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com/ I cannot at this time approve or lend my support. The use of the title “US Intelligence Information Center” and terms such as “Suspects” and “Persons of Interest” are tantamount to impersonating law enforcement and can likely cause a great deal of trouble for all involved.
Sincerely,
James Tracy
Those in the 9/11 Truth movement are well aware of the “cognitive infiltrators” who are only too happy to harness a loose cannon or two that will sabotage or otherwise hinder the genuine remedy of collective intelligence. I am aware that at least one of the parties who misinformed me is now operating as Wofgang Halbig’s handler.
This is unfortunate because despite Halbig’s awkwardness, the overall thrust of his inquiry—legally interrogating the officials overseeing the Sandy Hook event—is a logical next step toward better understanding what took place in Newtown fifteen months ago. Yet my previous experiences indicate that such individuals will likely proceed to lead Mr. Halbig down blind or deceiving alleys that in the end will only serve to further undermine a genuine pursuit of truth.
Well this sucks. Count on us driving this point home on his page until he responds.
This article is to simply point out that others can infiltrate a cause, and swoop in to “lend a helping hand” and it could be happening in Halbig’s camp. It is a very good point and Halbig needs to keep his eyes open to this. This article isn’t a hit-piece on Halbig himself. Re-read it if necessary.
@dmhennen- I also took this article as an expression of concern that the same individuals who attempted to serve as Tracy’s “handlers” are now attempting to do the same with Wolfgang. It’s a shame that some are using this as a reason to attack Wolfgang, when it seems to me that our focus should be on the infiltrators who are attempting to manage him and perhaps lead him in a wrong or unproductive direction. But since Tracy hasn’t identified who the infiltrators are who are attempting to manage Wolfgang, it’s not clear what we are supposed to do with this information. I personally wish that Tracy had expressed his concerns to Wolfgang privately.
It’s the 20th of the month in which Halbig was supposed to accomplish his big scenario. Halbig is getting written out of the play.
Please remember that those of us who weren’t impressed with Halbig from the first blogpost about him by Mr. Tracy were called trolls and shills.
posted to Google. Thank you for the information.
Wow. There has been alot of speculation lately that either he is controlled opposition or just a scam artist. My instinct has been that he is genuine but will be susceptible to influence because of his naivete. Your story about these people is quite illuminating.
Larry – How can he be a seasoned LEO and security expert and naive at the same time?
Im talking about naivete in terms of the history of the infiltration of truth and patriot groups.
I agree Larry. Good to have some sanity among the discussion. Right now Halbig is saying the right things in his interviews, so we have to give him the chance.
So we are to ‘give him a chance’ even if the best case scenario is he has been compromised? You suggest others should continue to donate even if his handlers are real life disinfo agents? Wow, that type of logic is astounding.
Unlike you, I sit back and carefully analyze the situation rather than jump the gun and throw out jibberish. You are no different than MSM.
Dr. Tracy posted this TODAY, and there are other comments stating that Halbig is trying to reach out to Dr. Tracy. Breath easy and let this unfold.
Mr. Tracy your input is invaluable. Thank you.
Thank you, Prof. Tracy, for sharing this. My instincts tell me Mr. Halbig was genuine at the onset and his intentions were pure. However, there have been indications the past few weeks that something is attempting to derail his efforts. Your comments help to clarify what may be going on with him now.
He has also had numerous companies/foundations over the years that have been involuntary dissolved but I realize this stretches into the overall credibility of Wolfgang. I also see the potential for mixed motives on his part as he stated recently he lost his job which I found suspicious and illogical the way he explained it.
When it is time to de-rail Mr. Halbig, Kyle Sainz always shows up! LOL
Ha, well I take it personal because I have gone back and forth with my trust of this guy. Ya know.
What difference does it make if you trust him or not? He is not this group’s leader. If you don’t trust him, don’t follow him or donate to him. Stay focused on exposing the Sandy Hook truth, and not wasting your energy on someone you obviously dislike. If he is a sham, other people are throwing away THEIR money, not yours. Let them throw their money down the drain if he is, indeed, a sham.
Sounds like the two of you have a history….
this is a very unfortunate blow
I’m OK with Halbig raising funds for the mission. But very disappointed that the plan to get to any inkling of truth seems so one dimensional. My daddy always said that one never gets a second chance to make a first impression. In Newtown, Halbig may easily be swept away.
“at least one of the parties who misinformed me is now operating as Wofgang Halbig’s handler.”
How telling. Thank you for this disclosure.
In his interviews, Halbig expresses the desire to question witnesses. Apparently he believes an FOIA lawsuit will achieve this end. That’s highly unlikely. Assuming government officials stonewalled his FOIA requests and thereby triggered litigation, the propriety of such requests presents purely legal issues. There would be no need to develop a factual record, from deposition testimony or otherwise, in order for a judge to resolve questions of law.
Moreover, Halbig is interested only in an FOIA case under Connecticut’s statute. (I know because I called him.) That’s problematic as well. After seeing Connecticut state officials in action, on what possible basis would anyone trust a state court judge there?
A federal FOIA suit would at least put the matter before a member of the federal judiciary, and would do so in a regional circuit that’s ruled in favor of FOIA petitioners before. The late Mark Pittman of Bloomberg successfully disgorged documents from the Federal Reserve pertaining to back door (and materially larger than TARP) bailouts after the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals (which includes CT) ruled in his favor.
Perhaps more importantly, a federal FOIA case would embrace the federal officials (e.g., FBI and even CIA) who were crawling all over Sandy Hook. Recall that NBC’s resident pile of disinformation, Pete Williams, repeatedly “broke” stories that were utterly false based on his contacts at the DOJ. Pray tell who was Williams’ source, why were they involved in a state law matter, and where were they getting their “information”? The questions are endless…
A state law FOIA case always struck me as a big fat dead end and a waste of money to boot.
In any event, you did well to trust your gut, Professor Tracy. Well done, sir.
I do not know Mr. Halbig but had an initial “gut” feeling that the process used in his attempted data-gathering was a bit too forceful and unprofessional for my own tastes (no offense intended). I think those digging for truth have to make every effort to appear as professional, lawful, etc. as possible as they undertaken their efforts — to avoid the appearance of being a “conspiracy nut” to the public.
I think Mr. Tracy has done a terrific job in this arena. As for Mr. Halbig, I have not commented on his efforts until today and have been only a very casual observer. I just don’t have a good feeling about this fellow, I’m sorry to say. I hope I am wrong.
Maybe this is why some accredited group like Sonoma’s “Operation Censorship” (?) should take control of the situation. Are there any reputable groups that can help Wolf?
Overall, regardless of anyone’s doubts about Wolf’s sincerity, he has provided a list of questions that anyone can ask and all of which deserved to be answered. Also, the FBI report should be unclassified. Why doesn’t this raise a red flag to the American people?
Mr Tracy, sounds like Wolfgang is trying to get in touch with you. This was just posted on his page….. “We have been reaching out to James Tracey , Sofia Smallstorm and James Fetzer but so far we have only heard from Mr Fetzer. We are willing to discuss all matters in an open format but so far the people that have the doubts have yet to talk direct.”
It would be great to see them all together to straighten this out. But even better to see them all work together on getting to the bottom of this ,like WAS sandy hook even an operating school,which it didnt seem to even be. i hope they cn all make contact and we can see them all get to the bottom of this sandy hook nonsense.
Can you please link to the page? I can’t find his website.
https://www.facebook.com/SandyHookJustice
That website is no longer available. Earlier a message from godaddy said “NOTICE: This domain name expired on 2/22/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.”
It is interesting that the handlers put so much effort into the coverup. Hopefully Mr. Halbig will benefit from your experience. Believe he is in his seventies and therefore is not unemployed, but has earned the right to be quietly retired.
Still on the fence with Alex Jones. Is all his exposure of police brutality part of the plan to terrorize us into compliance?
Wolfgang Halbig has stated he is 67 and may be collecting social security and perhaps pensions from his previous employers. He has also stated that his wife works, so I don’t think he’ll be destitute. Taking on corruption in high and low places takes courage, hard skin, money and moral support.
I have listened to many of his interviews and have refrained from giving a personal opinion. Just knowing if the school was open for business or not would answer all questions.
There was a state police sponsored high school drill in nearby Oxford back in 2007 where Lt. Vance had a few things to say. At the time it was the largest active shooter drill conducted in the state according to the ever present Vance.
Two minute video from the drill – helicopter, fake blood, goons and all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnqKikVbHeM
Are you aware he recently stated he lost his job at the Children’s Safety Institute?
There will always be those who are disruptive to the truth, and especially to those who can see the truth. Keep your friends close, your enemies closer. Just know they are out there.
My name is Erik Pearson. I am the creator and co-admin at the Sandy Hook hoax Facebook page.
I am 100% questioning Mr. Halbig’s validity. To make his grand debut and then 2 weeks later start asking for funds is obscene. He is a former LEO. He knows the procedure to file and receive a FOIA request. He has yet to submit one correctly. He is a former school principal yet he cannot form a sentence or grasp grammar and spelling as well as my first grader. He and his handlers are doing exactly what the players in Newtown are doing…. Let me explain….
After the event in Newtown, there were millions upon millions of people that were grieving and feeling guilty because their own children were alive…. How could they sleep at night? Oh Yeah!!!… They could make a small donation to one of the many funds that were setup.
15 months later and there are now millions upon millions of people who are seeing this event with opened eyes. They are realizing that something is not right with this story. How can they sleep at night? They feel guilty that they can’t do more to get the truth out…. Oh Yeah!!!…. They can make a small donation to a man who “claims” he can bust this case wide open.
Making sense?
It is my honest opinion that Mr. Halbig and his handlers are now praying on the emotions of those of us that are not buying the official narrative. This cash grab is now coming full circle.
He brings up the same points that we have brought up for the past 15 months. I’ve placed a lot of the same phone calls he has and no one has questioned or threatened me.
No lawyer will ever take funds for a case like this. It would destroy all credibility.
I honestly think that he was placed there and was to be used as a distraction as soon as we were getting close.
It worked.
-Erik-
Erik, I believe that by the time Wolfgang Halbig came to your attention, he had been requesting access to records and information for several months. The massacre was 15 months ago, and as each day passes, witnesses forget, disappear, records get buried, false records are created, laws get passed to hide and protect information, and the crime scene is wiped clean.
Halbig is old school. His pragmatic approach which included raising money to hire council and travel half way across the country is in no way suspect to me It’s step one. He has a plan, and is a man of action. He can’t do this alone, but who among us is in a position to help him? I hope he will be able to assemble a different team than the rogue handlers who are backing him now.
He has a natural gift for speaking – and his southern vernacular adds to his genuine quality. Wolfgang Halbig is still my great hope for finding out the truth of Newtown.
Thanks for the cogent deductive reasoning.
Much to do about money in Newtown – still.
Newtown Bee Thursday, March 13, 2014
The Newtown Lions Club Foundation has formally announced it has ceased directly administering benefits to providers and individuals through a fund established following the 12/14 tragedy. Peter McNulty, president of the Newtown Lions Club, said in a release, “Our original plan estimated that we would need to serve about 100 individuals for approximately 10 years. During the past 14 months we have provided benefits to over 250 individuals and expended over $350,000.” The demand on the club has become overwhelming, Mr. McNulty said. As a result the local Lions Club has sought other means to continue to provide support to the community. By joining forces with others, “we bring all of the organizations’ strengths together to provide financial support in the most efficient way.” The Lions will continue fundraising for 12/14 relief, including a golf tournament that is scheduled for late June.
A couple of days ago there was a short article in the Newtown Bee stating the town is still receiving donations from faraway places.
Newtown Memorial Fund going strong with all sorts of fundraisers in the works:
http://newtownmemorialfund.org/
There is so much cash in the funds supporting Newtown that I’m starting to think that most of the town no longer works anymore …or something.
“the fund……providing support for 10 years.” Really? What the heck? It’s like the Reader’s Digest $xxxx/per month giveaway. Where do the rest of us sign up?
The money has been very difficult to keep track of. I always refer people to the CT Atty Gen website for the initial reports asked to be provided by all charities collecting on behalf of Newtown. That information is very much out of date.
http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=4424&q=522546
Large sums of money raining down on that little town do provide a motive for the silence. That is the answer to the “how could that many people be kept quiet?” objection. All you have to do is not speak, and you bank account gets fat. Signed non disclosure agreements the sour note if anyone who might possess ghost of conscience felt like opening up. It’s perfectly doable. carrot/stick a longstanding, effective tactic.
Kenneth Feinberg is managing the Newtown funds. He also managed the 9/11 funds, the Virginia Tech funds, the BP Deepwater Horizon funds, the Aurora Theater funds, the Boston bombing funds, and yes, he’s Jewish. See: Kenneth Feinberg – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Feinberg
Is anyone keeping a running tally (official or unofficial) of funds relating to the Sandy Hook event? Just from the outdated CT Attorney General list alone, private funding runs into the millions of dollars…I don’t think federal funds were even included. The financial aspect of S.H. would be an interesting area to research. There are so many possibilities of malfeasance: money laundering, tax evasion, misappropriation of funds, charity fraud; there is a multitude of ways to get into trouble.
It’s too bad the public wasn’t given honest (if basic) information to begin with. Much of the speculating comes from the government’s clear violation of the public’s trust. It’s not like we have caught them in a single lie, or even two…they’ve lied too many times to count! And if it were solely the fault of journalists and the media, why haven’t they been called out by TPTB and corrective action taken?
Agree Susan. It is just jaw-dropping (the amount of cash involved). For the price of an 10-year (or ?) annuity – surely you will have a large group of willing accomplices. Even those who are close but not otherwise involved – some direct or indirect compensation also keeps questions to a minimum, no doubt.
I just did a bit of looking into that and found an article from 12/14/13 that states the total to be 27 million:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/newtown-charities-raise-27-million-wake-tragedy-v21875236
I went to the Atty Gen page and clicked on each report and added up all 58 unique charities that accepted funds for Newtown. This was tricky because there were a few that were listed twice. The total I got was $21,963,319.09. (This list did not include individual family donation orgs) But, I did add in the 30k that 26.4.26 donated, with the other 70k going to paddle boards or whatever..
Sandy Hook Promise is interesting. The article linked above states that as of 12/14/13, it had collected 3.5 million. In their 21 page report on the Atty Gen page, as of June 14, 2013, they had collected a total of $1,031,000.00. That’s 238,000 for lobbying, and 793,000 for “education and immediate need”… so we are looking at a difference of 2,469,000.00, all supposedly collected between June 2013 and Dec 2013. This looks like their donations never tapered off, and even escalated the second half of 2013. You should get a look at their board of directors…
Very worth taking a look at.
http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=4424&q=522546
If you add in all the family donation pages, it probably does add up to an excess of 27 million. 27 million!! Psychological Warfare Is a Racket!!
Susan – thank you for that link! Wow! Crazy. These funds are a great way to stuff money (pay-offs) somewhere. Interesting that “donations” went up for 2013…can only imagine the anniversary of the event was used for fundraising pushes. But, I would love to audit these things to find out sources of funds.
The sum of $21,963,319.09 derived from the list of charities does NOT include pledges. I wanted a conservative estimate based on what had been reported to the state as being received. Many of the groups reported late, as late as August of 2013– the deadline was April. There were a few that reported pledges, the Newtown Forest Association had only collected $3,152, but had been pledged another $250,000. I think another reported a pledge of 250k also. These random groups that had little to no media exposure raising in some cases over 1 million dollars kind of reeks of slush fund activity, if I have an awareness of the true definition of slush fund. Almost 2 thirds of the 58 charities reported amounts in the hundreds of thousands. These numbers tell a story.
Susan, I have always wondered how much total that incident and that little town have collected and never wanted to take the time to try to get the number. Thank you for doing all of that. It’s astounding and upsetting and those that aren’t awake may take notice when they see the actual amount they’ve stolen.
Hi Samantha, I agree that it is very astounding. As someone mentioned above, the Atty Gen list does not include the Federal monies or the many individual family specific funds. I recall the Posner family flap over allocations of what they had raised, but do not remember the amount. Gathering that information might be more difficult, they may not disclose any totals. The Parker 5 must have collected a boat load since they were hawking their fb donation page the day after. The fact that they had the whole system set up as quickly as they did was a huge red flag. A banker type on one of the message boards explained how it took at least a few business days to do the paperwork for the kind of fund they had. Anyone who has dealt with banks and reporting agencies regarding 501(c)3’s knows this. I will keep looking into it.
Erik, the real problem started here (taken from the Sandy Hook Hoax Facebook Group…post from Erik Pearson on 2/28/14)….”As you know, I have been waiting for close to 3 weeks for Wolfgang Halbig to accept my friend request…. ”
Because you didn’t get friended by Wolfgang in a timely matter, is no reason to start a coup d’état to “overthrow him from power”. Keep in mind he is not IN power….He is not our leader and has never stated that he was going to be the Messiah to take the Sandy Hook Truthers to the promised land. He is a genuine American patriot who wants answers. He has spent 11 months trying to get answers via FOIA requests and has been met with stonewalling. If people don’t like Wolfgang or don’t trust Wolfgang, let it be. It doesn’t impact you. But when you complain and say “how dare he lead the charge without consulting me.”….it makes your ego shine right through. Since the interview on Alex Jones, we’ve heard non-stop drum-beating of hatred for Mr. Halbig from the likes of Brendan Hunt, Tony Mead, Kyle Sainz and yourself….which makes the rest of us wonder, which side ya’ll are on….especially when we’ve got this….http://flic.kr/p/meaE2E
Dan I have been back and forth, and I think least some of the rest have been back and forth too. The truth is what is desired here, in fact Tony posted the other night in support of WH though there was a hint of reservation, still he was trying to show support in good faith.
In light of recent information the case for legitimacy is not good or at the very least his hands are not capable due to how easily ensnared he is among other things.
Wouldn’t we all like to know when WH is going to secure the retainers for the attorneys or if they are planning to wait until they hit the 100K goal? I asked WH site admin that question and am awaiting a response.
We’re all on the same side unless we’re truly working for the other side, none of the aforementioned names are that is for sure, but there are real questions that have to be addressed. No way around it. We are not in a room together or all on Facebook together or have each others cell phones so instead we blog, make videos, and engage social media.
Kyle, the obvious thing to me is while doing any search for Halbig, I see your copy/paste comments all over the place calling Halbig a fraud. That is “trolling” in my book. Tony Mead is busy harassing Halbig under the hanldle “Benjamin Dover”….WTF is his deal? Erik Pearson has publicly said he “will expose Halbig for the fraud that he is.”…. The difference between vetting someone and destroying their credibility is very obvious. The un-educated people going after Halbig full-throttle are obviously doing it for a reason. Those listed above are doing their best to splinter this group and derail an honest man simply doing what he can to help. Once you get a team of lawyers together, let us know.
Thank you!
Thank you, Amanda.
Good points Dmhennen. But I think trolling is when you go to message boards making controversial posts with the goal of starting arguments. Trolls usually choose their words wisely to push the right buttons. They have good knowledge of the subject matter – just enough to be dangerous.
What Kyle is doing is more like spamming his weak ideas, hoping they stick with the easy targets – throw a bunch of do do and see where it sticks.
Let’s stop beating around the bush. Halbig is either real or he isn’t there is NO in between. Also, the handlers either have good motives or they don’t, there is no in between. Let’s focus on these two issues and we can deal with the rest later. You can call it what you want but war is deception and there are thousands of us in the trenches trying to make a difference and we do NOT appreciate this bs that is going on and will continue to vociferously go after the truth, whatever that is.
OOOOh snap! I had no idea Erik was collecting donations!!
So if Wolfgang has handlers, and they are posting on Sandy Hook Justice on his behalf, and they are engaged in a flame war with Sandy Hook Hoax, which, btw still maintains the “we’re not saying kids didn’t die” disclaimer, I would say that they taint each other. Bronx cheer.
As someone pointed out – there was some hypocrisy on Erik’s part for supposedly criticizing SHook parents for fund-raising when he and his wife had done the same:
https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/jhv/ryderwilliam
I don’t judge. People have reasons for asking for help and that’s cool. I am just throwing it out there as a matter that has come under review in the fundraising arena.
Lol
Erik this is what i posted a while back re: Wolf and if you following the link and go read the comments there you will see a rabid jewish side of Wolfgang that will certainly open your eyes.
PCGeek said…
I’m beginning to wonder about Wolfgang Halbig … since he is Jewish and at the following link you find a Wolfgang post in the comments which self portrays him as anti muslim and rabid jewish.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/obama-outlines-efforts-to-prevent-modern-slavery/
His very poor grammar & spelling in his FOIA requests raised my eyebrows, but also his abruptness on the scene with a much too convenient background as ‘school safety expert’ etc.
He could be a strawman to make the Sandy Hook truth community think something is being done or attempted. It is also strange that many of his talking points are the exact questions I’ve posted at letsrollforums.com and other sites.
I bet he gets fake suicided or disappears literally or via threats pressure which may be a jewish backed ploy to dissuade others from digging too deep.
Interesting, PCGeek.
I had to look at Wolfgang’s “GoFundMe” site. Ugh. Especially the sales pitch about donators having something to tell their grandchildren about (e.g., their $xx donation helped to solve Sandy Hook). Pahleeze….
Your points are not evidence that Halbig is a fraud. They are quite weak indeed.
Your points debunked:
1. He’s asking for cash too early. How do you expect him to pay for gas, meals, and his bills while he is traveling? Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Dr. Tracy said he raised $10k. That’s pennies in the overall spectrum. He’s been working on this case for a long time – using his time and resources.
2. He has not filed FOIA properly. This remains to be seen. If his resume is accurate, hes been a part of the system for many years, and never considered FOIA. This is new territory for him.
3. Poor grammar and professionalism. I’ll keep saying it till I’m blue – professionalism and being a fraud are not linked. Please show me one study that proves unprofessional behavior is a sign of being a fraud.
@Bill Fred- Thank you so much for your comment. I’m honestly sick of the attacks on Wolfgang. My gut sense is that he’s an honest, genuine, and concerned citizen who wants to get to the truth about Sandy Hook. I personally see him as a game-changer for Sandy Hook truth. Given his unique background, as a former state trooper, school administrator, and school safety specialist, his has a certain kind of standing when he raises questions about Sandy Hook. I think people have taken to his message and his focus on the concrete facts and evidence. And Wolfgang wants to actually take action and move things forward in a legal manner. I have no problem with him raising funds–and the amount he’s attempting to raise is nothing in comparison to what the hoaxers have raised by preying on the sympathies of the nation. My only concern about Wolfgang is that since this is the first event that he’s ever questioned (I’m not sure he was aware of 911 and the other false flags), he may not understand how “truther” movements are easily infiltrated and manipulated by the other side.
Amanda, Halbig has referred to both Boston and 9/11 as if he believes the official story. It is concerning, but maybe the poor guy as been so caught up with Sandy Hook, he hasn’t looked at the horizon.
Sandy Hook is what woke me up to 9/11 and other events. We’ll have to see how Halbig responds to this. Maybe he should come over eventually and respond on this blog.
That almost makes me believe WH more then anything and just see him as not as robust with his false flag knowledge as most of us but it is just a thought.
@Bill Fred- I actually don’t think it’s concerning that Wolfgang believes in the official narrative of 911 or Boston–I think that just makes him like most Americans. Given his unique background, he immediately noticed something was clearly wrong with what we were being told about Sandy Hook. I get the sense that others have already tried to clue him in about 911 and possibly Boston. But I think Wolfgang is trying to keep his focus on Sandy Hook, which I think is a good idea, because that’s where his expertise lies.
Also, on the direction Wolfgang is intending on taking things (meaning hiring a lawyer and private investigator, and visiting Newtown), I’m not a lawyer and have no background in law enforcement, so I honestly don’t know what’s best. But if others think he’s being led in the wrong direction, perhaps they should share this information directly with Wolfgang (his phone number and email are readily available on the internet). I honestly take him as being genuinely interested in the truth, and it just seems like it would be best if we could all somehow find a way to work together and collaborate instead of attacking one another and self-destructing from within.
Amanda, well said and I agree!
Actually WH knows there were no murders at SHES.
BF, I don’t get why your sucking on halbigs nuts so hard? What has he done to be above legitimate investigation? i am not convinced one way or the other but have leaned towards him being a bit fishy ever since i read his foia “requests.” Are you so desperate for a hero that you can place complete strangers above scrutiny?
Who is this Erik Pearson guy?
MY NAME IS BILL FRED, AND I’M A DOUCHE BAG…..
Look, Pearson, get your weak position in order. You come on this very reliable blog and trash someone with very little credible evidence.
Then, you don’t come back to defend you position. How are you supposed to be someone any person can follow? You are scum for slamming Halbig at this point of the story. Be patient and let this play out. If Halbig is a fraud, he can only hide in the open for so long.
Next crazy thing you’ll come up with is that you know exactly what happened to the missing airliner…
MY NAME IS D-BAG PEARSON, AND I’M AN AVIATION EXPERT, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING AIRLINER….HALBIG STOLE IT SO HE COULD ESCAPE THE MAD, MOUTH-FOAMING ATTACKS FROM THE SANDY HOOK TRUTHERS EXPOSING HIM AS THE REINCARNATION OF ARCHIE BUNKER. HE WILL NOW SETTLE IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WITH ALL THE WEALTH AND RICHES OF MONEY, GOLD AND JEWELERY ($13K) HE SCAMMED FROM THE SAP-FACED SANDY HOOK TRUTHERS. THIS NEW WEALTH ($13K) WILL LAST HIM AND GENERATIONS OF HIS FAMILY WITH ROBUST AND LUXURY LIVING. HALBIG IS ACCEPTING DONATIONS FROM HIS FACEBOOK PAGE WHICH WAS POSTED THREE DAYS BEFORE HE TOOK OVER THE PLANE WITH HIS ISRAELI BUDDIES.
…..AFTER HE COLLECTS ALL HIS MONEY, HE WILL INVEST IN HIS GENERAL EDUCATION SO HE CAN LEARN HOW TO READ AND WRITE, FOREVER HIDING HIS IDENTITY AS A FRAUD.
Here’s something I found on Mr. Pearson. http://flic.kr/p/meaE2E
Donations to Erik Pearson. Funny. Good find.
I am lost, who is this guy Erik Peason and where does he fit in to all of this?
Samantha, Erik Pearson is the founder and co-admin of the Sandy Hook Hoax page and blog.
Kathy, yes, Alex Jones’ exposure of police state brutality is part of the plan to terrorize us. Jones is using the same technique as Jim Jones, who first desensitized his followers and then tormented them. The groupthink and paranoia both instilled in their followers is textbook CIA mind control. Do not listen to Alex Jones every day. He only means to disempower you. Just as Jim Jones did his followers.
See: Is Alex Jones externalizing the hierarchy? – http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/is-alex-jones-externalizing-the-hierarchy/
See: Learned helplessness through the alternative media – http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/learned-helplessness-through-the-alternative-media/
See: !WARNING! – PSEUDO-PATRIOT ALEX JONES IS RUNNING A JONESTOWN-STYLE CIA MIND-CONTROL PSYOP ON THE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN PEOPLE! – http://wp.me/pPnn7-1tH
I stopped listening to those who make a living on bringing us the Bad News and I am happier (and just as informed) for it.
As far as the subject at hand, I think Erik Pearson just about nailed it (see comment, above).
Alex Jones is absolutely “Total-Hidden-Deception” though he at times has a Sound- Appearance of truth, but inwardly he is the Dark-Angel lurking and never to be trusted. Says Heaven!
Do you think his number of followers is exaggerated? Are many of is ‘followers’ actually shills?
Something very odd about Alex Jones……
It’s fascinating to observe the lengths that the powerful and power hungry will go to in order to control the conversation. I find this blog so compelling because it is populated by thinkers who kick and punch at all sides when attempts are made to box them in.
well said
Everyone who posts here needs to take an incognito trip thru Newtown, CT city limits, and just observe things. Do not ask any questions, just observe, stop and get gas, drive thru the main drag, do not go into any restricted areas, find a convenience store and stop in for some treats and a beverage to go.
Also, get a hold of Brandon Hunt, who made a trip there back in March, 2013 and ask him if he thinks that place is what the MSM, wiki, and various publications make it out to be. He did a great video about the fenced in and soon to be demolished SHES which was decrepit as can be, but what about the rest of the city?
I really don’t care about the Satanic angle, the freemasons, the man in the woods, or even the free houses. We need a professional assessment of what really is Newtown, CT?
true, the dark stuff will only serve as a distraction even if true, pure and unadulterated hard hitting facts and professionalism is the method for victory
If you’re taking a trip through Newtown, tint your windows, fill up your tank, lock your doors, don’t make any stops, and don’t look anyone straight in the eye.
Bill, none of that would be necessary. You will be hard pressed to find anyone roaming around that ghost town. I only saw maybe ten cars and one state police vehicle after driving through Newtown for about 30 mins. One gas station out of three (Sunoco) that I came across was open. This was 1 pm on a Friday afternoon.
John Luv – that is most interesting. I have heard so many people commenting on the lack of life in the area. Lots of nice real estate on Trulia – for sale. I wonder what one has to do to get one of those $0 mortgages. Sorry, couldn’t resist that.
Yes, there are tons of for sale signs by every real estate company, especially north of I-84. Lot’s of homes in the foreclosure process. This place resembles Lehigh Acres, Fla. I went through there about 4 years ago when I was in SW Florida….many of those homes originally sold for 300-450K back in the early 2000s. When I toured, it was America’s newest slum. You couldn’t pay me $1M to live in either place.
Sadly, much of America is in early, mid or post foreclosure it seems. Thanks for your insight on the landscape up there. Next thing you know, they’ll have the Newtown Re-Population Fund…to pay people to move into the area. Lord knows they have plenty of $$ 🙂 That way they’ll have some people to actually populate some of those new building ventures.
Well, one could run for first select(wo)man next time. Pat is getting a bit long in the tooth and ready for a nice retirement pad in Florida. One person who’s no longer mentioned these days is the former Newtown School Superintendent. She has a new, well padded position elsewhere in the state and they could not emphasize enough that she had this position lined up before 12/14/12. We saw her all over from Newtown to DC in the aftermath. It’s safe to assume she did not do it for free before getting out of Dodge.
Janet’s name may not be mentioned lately, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t digging in to her. Notice how she was allowed to leave her post months earlier than she was supposed to have? Ready for another sup to take over in the aftermath of their phony tragedy and FOIA requests? The entire school system in the state of CT is wrong, very wrong. I have actually been gathering information on that subject.
Sketchy.
For your consideration….
Wolfgang Halbig and Involuntary Dissolution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqrjvfLJFmg#t=243
John – Thank you for putting up this video by Team Wake-em-up. The video commentator was quite amusing but the information was very interesting.
This vid has some interesting points, but not much as far as pointing Halbig as a fraud.
For him to be involved with many inactive organizations might be easily explained. As a consultant, he probably got paid in different ways from different sources, and setting up an organization to serve a purpose for a set of time, then letting it be dissolved might be an SOP for people in his position.
Team Wake Em Up is one of the guy’s who hurts the truth movement. I think he has a good heart, but he’s a little too cocky for me when he has done little research on topics. People on he outside are not going to follow him. Only truthers follow a guy like Team.
If we are wrong about WH then I don;t speak for them but I will and I do venture to say that they will write letters of apology about all this and right the wrong, but right now y’all are still essentially saying people should donate to him even if he has been compromised, which is just nuts. At least that must be addressed first right?
Agreed, he needs to respond. Not sure why Smallstorm and the other guy Fetzer or something are getting involved, but this story is much better than the missing airliner hoax!!
Hi Bill Fred – I sincerely appreciate your input. Thanks for the insight. The involuntary dissolution I would imagine is as simple as not filing an annual report and letting the entity go. I don’t think the entity’s were closed via a court action.
You know, I think it’s the whole public request for funds and the sales pitch that goes along with the request that has turned me a bit. I hope Halbig is an honest fellow and he gets the help he needs to corral his bull in the china shop mentality that he seems to have displayed (imho).
I realize a full-time effort to unmask a conspiracy takes time, effort and funds. I just got a bad feeling from the approach.
Maybe his ‘handlers’ got to him before Dr. Tracy, and they are pushing him to ask for donations. These people are sick, evil bastards and we have to leave all possibilities on the table. They want us to separate – its one of their tactics they have used for decades.
Another blog posted comments and screen shots of a Facebook conversation with someone who claimed to be Halbig. It looked legit. Halbig was basically questioning his place in this whole f’d up scenario, and it seemed he was ready to quit.
With all the kwirks, quacks, kooks and block heads posting all over the place that Halbig is a fraud (with very little evidence), that alone could discourage someone. Then the pressure he is getting from “THEM” has got to be very difficult.
If you haven’t listened to former FBI Special Agent in charge of the LA division of the FBI, Ted Gunderson, I recommend you do. Very alarming to hear how they will attack public figures who speak the truth about 9/11 and other events.
Its all on Halbig’s shoulders. He can step up and prove his worthiness, stay on the same path (if hes a fraud) and become irrelevant, or walk away from the whole thing. My guess is that he walks.
Thanks for that info, Bill Fred. I’m going to save this post and refer to the Gunderson info this weekend (some quiet reading time). I appreciate your sharing this. In seeing Mr. Day William’s conduct and rather nutty responses on this blog, I hope Mr. Halbig seeks out some competent guides if he is who is says he is. I have hope that he is – but needs someone to guide him appropriately and apparently to muzzle him gently when necessary.
Professor Tracy,
It was not until I read your article “Wolfgang Halbig’s Quest for Truth” that the yellow flags that I had about Halbig after hearing two interviews with him became red flags.
I cannot thank you enough for publishing his emails in that article because reading it allowed me to pick up on several issues and, frankly, completely unprofessional elements I noticed in Halbig’s writings. As your article shared, his bizarre email subject lines of the emails included:
– “Mike Kehoe your Police Chief should be immediately fired for Negligence”
– “Re: Do I need to get arrested to show the FBI’s negligence in Sandy Hook?”
– “Do I need to get arrested to make my point?”
– “Re: Request a investigative copy if the Sandy Hook School shooting from President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder now.”
– “Re: Criminal Investigation is now closed so please provide my FOIA request now.”
– “Asbestos in the Sandy Hook School”
The content of the emails you published immediately struck me as being of a somewhat harassing nature (Halbig harassing his recipients) and I would bet that most people reading these emails would get the impression that Halbig is a kook who enjoys using salty language.
The biggest problem which causes me to question Halbig’s credibility is that he apparently believes that email is the proper procedure to file Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests…
Reading the emails contained in your article I found myself kind of smacking my palm into my forehead and thought “Goodness, he’s burying himself; WHY would you release these to be used in friendly media to demonstrate Halbig’s fighting the good fight…”
When a guy comes along who on paper has the right credentials to open the eyes of the average mouthbreathers it’s a good thing because here is a guy who can be rolled out to mainstream media and people will listen to this credible guy whose message contradicts the Sandy Hook storyline that the media’s been pushing for 14 months; BUT a producer reads those emails and realizes that all the tools he or she needs to paint Halbig as Looney Toons are right there, the story isn’t about challenging the storyline but it’s a continuation of the “conspiracy nut” storyline the media loves to push…
Most importantly, with his alleged credentials, the dummy should know that the reason he hasn’t received responses to his FIOA requests is that he hasn’t follow the FIOA procedures and therefore hasn’t officially filed a single FOIA request because you cannot file an FOIA request by email….
according to the governments foia website you can in many cases fila a foia by email. The individual government entinty can decide their own protocol from what I undestand. In a crucial and sensitive case such as this I would do it by certified mail however.
Boston fakery in the news today. Previous amputee in public display of new device. Will they ask her on Dancing with the Stars how much money she has received so far?
http://nypost.com/2014/03/20/boston-bomb-victim-back-on-the-dance-stage/
You can NOT file an FOIA request through Wolfgang Halbig’s method of sending gibberish to various individuals, someone with his credentials should understand the importance of always being professional. It is quite simple to find a sample FOIA request letter for the State of Connecticut: http://www.nfoic.org/connecticut-sample-foia-request
Halbig’s lack of professionalism was striking when I first read Professor Tracy’s article “Wolfgang Halbig’s Quest for Truth,” Those of us with questions about this event owe a great deal of thanks to Professor Tracy for sharing Halbig’s emails because it served as a giant red flag to cause many to research Halbig’s background.
When you’re in the desert and yearning to quench your thirst, sometimes you’ll drink the sand thinking it is water; as many people with questions were yearning for a credible voice to come along and put him or herself at the forefront to serve as their voice and get the answers many so desperately seek, sometimes we take a sip of the water only to discover it’s sand as we begin to swallow.
Since you are so interested and knowledgeable, feel free to make your own requests for public records and please share the responses you receive.
Mr. Williams, perhaps an introduction would be polite and proper. When so doing, please explain how an experienced Nevada trial attorney came to be “legal liason” for a Florida-based school security professional. Thank you.
Telling you how we connected would invade attorney-client privilege. I will say that I have represented Sirhan Sirhan,I’ve attended conferences on the JFK assassination, and I have followed false flags and psychological operations many years.
May I ask who you are, and whether you have you requested any public records from Ct. officials?
Are you a licensed attorney in FL or CT?
Thanks Benjamin…I guess “legal liaison” is an attempt to get around state licensing perhaps?
What are your credentials, Beth D.?
There is no issue with a lawyer’s representing someone from another state. Once you decide to file a court action, a lawyer must associate with an attorney from that other state, have the client hire an attorney from that state, or petition to be admitted pro hac vice.
My “credentials” are not at issue on this blog. Members of this group have simply asked for information about you, requested clarification as to the “puffery” in your resume and I believe many are curious as to your compensation cut in connection with Mr. Halbig and his fundraising.
In addition to the above, I think we are all wondering just what in the heck you are doing and why you are spending so much time in this blog hammering on the regulars.
If you are being paid for your consulting services from the funds Mr. Halbig is raising from the public, the compensation must surely be for efforts associated with issues OTHER than estate planning, product liability and such. Do you plan on also accepting a tidy referral fee for referring the gentleman to a properly licensed attorney should he move forward with his prospective case in CT.
Surely a lawsuit against a governmental body is going to be spun enough to make Mr. Halbig and his counsel dizzy – they have all the funds to do so. It is going to get awfully expense.
Obviously it would’ve made sense for Mr. Halbig to utilize the services of a CT licensed attorney from the start because somewhere between you and he – FOIA requests, follow-up efforts and the like have been, shall we say, poorly done? Are you coaching / advising him as to the verbal threats he has made towards officials and his “I’m coming up there” threats? I only ask because you claim you are his “legal liaison”.
A CT licensed attorney could best guide the gentleman along on the ropes. If Halbig engages CT, he is obviously going to need an arsenal.
So, what is it again you are doing again and why all of the attacks and defenses? Your conduct on this blog started all of the inquiries into your motives, your activities and your background. In my time spent here on this blog, I have found most of the participants to be respectful, decent folks. You have come out swinging from the get-go.
Day R Williams?
Mr Williams:
It would be appropriate for you to clarify the reality of your credentials:
In 1997/98 lead attorney Lawrence Teeter filed an appeal to the California Supreme Court asking them review Sirhan’s conviction. While Teeter served as Sirhan’s primary counsel, along with Rose Lynn Mangan and Ken McKenna, you briefly served on Teeter’s team.
Criminal law and appellate law are not your areas of expertise, I’m sure the readers of Professor Tracy’s site would have appreciated it if you disclosed that your practice areas are: Wills and Trusts, Business Disputes, Personal Injury and Product Liability.
Which begs the question:
Do you encounter a lot of false flag attacks and psychological operations in the cut throat world of Product Liability law?
Looking forward to reading your response.
Thanks!
Nick
I don’t know everything. Mr. Halbig wants to find out the truth about Sandy Hook. I don’t know of any attorney besides myself who has come forward on behalf of people who question the official story. If you know an attorney who specializes in this area of the law and lives closer to Mr. Halbig, or even another attorney who is interested, please provide the name to me. I will forward that name to Mr. Halbig. In the meantime, I’m here. I don’t feel particularly welcome in this venue. I represent Mr. Halbig. I encourage you to conduct your own research in any legal manner you see fit. I encourage you to hire an attorney of your own if you see fit.
Oh Snap, Nick! He pulled that response straight from the democratic-like playbook and never answered your questions. Not that I expected he would. (Apologies to any dems out there…no offense to you intended).
Nick…a most excellent post. Hats off to you, Sir. This guy is a piece of work, eh?
The State of Connecticut has installed a DHS prison specialist as Head of Emergency Services, passed the most restrictive and openly defied gun legislation in America and is currently negotiating a tax deal with UTC that would bring a 500M dollar expansion of the defense contractor’s varied operations in the state.
FOIA compliance has been tested statewide and found to be laughable:
http://www.middletownpress.com/general-news/20140319/many-connecticut-police-departments-withhold-public-info-investigation-finds
Are you his “legal liasion” or are you representing him? You’ve claimed both, If you are representing him, in which capacity are you doing so?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujH2O4Fz0iI
I got A LOT of flak, when I made the first video on youtube warning about Wolfgang. All one needs to do is follow his fan pages on facebook.
I say fan pages, because Wolfgang now has “handlers.” He has not his own facebook, where he posts his own stuff. It all goes through someone else. You think those handlers are working for free? Or perhaps, will their hard work and dedication be worth a little bit of the over $20,000 Wolfgang had collected thus far, documented? That includes not the monies he had sent to his house.
Check out his fan pages on facebook. They post every other day an old photo of Wolfbag from the 80s or 90s. Nothing recent. Have you ever seen a video of Wolfdong? I think it is VERY possible he is a false creation, an alias. Somebody could be using photos of their old junior high principal, and made an online identity, and are cashing in on the Truthers, DESPERATE for a genuine, bonafide leader.
Now the C.S.I. is defunct. SO, why does Wolfdong need to be the one to go to Sandy Hook?
Why did he wait 14 months to appear?
Too many questions and too much suspicious activity surrounding this man. And, now it appears Jim Fetzer is rabidly defending Wolfblah’s authenticity. Hmmmm. Yet, Sofia Smallstorm and Professor Tracy have their qualms, minor and major, apparently.
Either way, whether Wolfdog is for real and just wants the truth to come out, or he is a money hungry opportunistic zionist, or he is actually controlled opposition…..one thing should be CRYSTAL CLEAR to ALL but the deluded ones who donated and still support the man.
He is ultimately going to do major damage to our cause. If he actually goes to Sandy Hook and gets arrested, it will be curtains for Truthers.
He would not last three seconds in an interview with an Anderson Cooper or any mainstream media pundit/talking head/empty suit.
He is a bumpkin, and a dangerous prospect for the future of The Truth regarding Sandy Hook.
Too many questions to list. Why did he wait until 14 months later to appear? Why did he allegedly get visited by police twice (or was it thrice?), when none of us other Sandy Hook researchers who have been doing deep investigatory work since 12/14/2012, have never been visited by Law Enforcement, never mind even called by L.E.? I live in Connecticut, and I have been making a large scene with writing letters to the editors of various papers large and small, getting published, and I have called into more than a dozen AM talk shows, and I am a regular on two, still to this day, and I always spoke the unspeakable regarding Sandy Hook. No cop ever visited me.
This is to be an important lesson for us all to learn, when it is all said and done. Wolfgang’s show, unfortunately, is just getting started, and it is going to be the definition of the S H’ing the F.
Keep the faith, brothers and sisters!
-The Dreamer
For the record, Mr. Halbig originally contacted me in March 2013. At the time I was inundated with correspondence and thus did not immediately respond until subsequent attempts in December 2013 and January 2014.
Hey Peace- great post and very thoughtful. You bring up some good points for all to consider…even those who feel they are in Halbig’s corner or are simply on the fence.
I wonder if Halbig has established a nonprofit for the funds being sent to him on-line and in the mail. I tried to locate one via his state of residence and found nothing yet.
I share your concern that Halbig and his handlers/coworkers could cause more harm than good.
I would venture a guess that if Halbig was visited by law enforcement it was due to the nature and tone of his follow-up communications to CT officials and his “I’m coming up there” threats. Highly unprofessional and I’ll venture a guess that his tone generated some serious concern for the recipients.
Man, I am so pissed off. I just typed up what would have been like a three page long response, and when I hit post comment, it brought me out of this page to log in, and it ERASED THE COMMENT! So angry, probably not wasting my time on wordpress comment sections ever again. You know how aggravating that is!? I am sure we have all experienced it.
Anyway, I am not on my home computer, so that is the reason, or part of the reason.
I just wanted to post my video again. I got A LOT of heat for being the first person to make a youtube video calling attention to Wolfbag and his shadiness.
It should be crystal clear to all but those who donated and still protect him as the Messiah of the Truth Movement, with the golden resume and the aw shucks hominess:
Wolfgang is just getting started, and he is ultimately going to do major damage to the cause of Truth regarding the Sandy Hook event.
If he goes to Newtown, and gets arrested, it is curtains for Truthers. Expect new tighter legislation, going after FOI, perhaps even 1A, banning conspiracy speech.
He wouldn’t last a minute in a televised debate with the likes of Piers Morgan, Anderson Cooper, or any of the tv personalities. Heck, he wouldn’t last ten seconds against Brendan Hunt, or me, or some of the others who have been to Sandy Hook, and have been researching this since 12/14/2012. Never forget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujH2O4Fz0iI&list=UUut_uMRRPIiM_67NXnbVFMA
UGH! I posted the wrong video atop. Attached below is the proper video, I intended to post in the comment above, which is regarding Halbig.
The video above is about Helicopters and their use/non-use in Connecticut when a teacher or student is injured severely on school grounds…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujH2O4Fz0iI
Now if someone does not have good grammar and spelling, that person is suspect? You are free to make your own FOIA requests. Anybody can. Go for it. Got a better idea than FOIA requests? Then do it, instead of making videos to put people down.
@peaceb:
1. When you type a comment, make sure to copy it before you click “submit”. That way if it’s gone, you can just paste it back in.
2. “F*^k bunny”? And you dare criticize Halbig for his lack of grammar and professionalism???
3. Looks like Alex Jones???
4. Immature speech bubbles in a video?
Pls give your ranting a rest. And pls do not refer to any human with such vulgar terms. The irony of your avatar name escapes no one.
I think that’s what CT is waiting for. Someone, not necessarily Wolfgang, but anyone to come to their Newtown and start a ruckus, then they can pass another piece of legislation that impedes on our rights. We have to be very careful.
Nick, how do you know Halbig filed his original FOIA requests early last year? Are you assuming he sent off some quick and dirty emails requesting the information? The only correspondence we’ve all seen publicly from Halbig were some random emails beginning last October/November time frame after months of stonewalling. By then then you could tell that his tone had changed. I personally don’t know, but I want to make you aware not to assume things that you don’t know.
@ Nick: I wouldn’t call Halbig’s emails “a red flag”. I think they just indicate that he needs some assistance. He is probably so outraged that it’s hard for him to keep his feelings reigned in.
I too, criticized the unprofessionalism. But there’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just do things better in the future…
*sigh*
This is what i questioned dr tracy on when this was originally released. For some reason, Jim thought i was out in left field, eventually (ironically) censoring my subsequent reiterations to his incredulous response.
(Note how tracy references a dead link to what i was talking about.)
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/17/sandy-hook-free-homes-and-big-bucks-incentives-for-leaders-and-players/comment-page-2/#comment-61415
Jim- nothing against you other than you censored me for positing that maybe YOU were up to something with intentions behind your blog when fetzer came on with his childish coalitions, defensive posture, and mudslinging emails. As evidenced here by other readers (and now yourself), Halbig is naive at best, and fetzer is complete money grubbing trash. Why not allow freedom of speech? Why cant we criticize you? You are not perfect, but wouldn’t you encourage your students to be skeptical of everything, including of that which you teach?
I will try to be more constructive in future posts, I was just incensed when I read the aforementioned emails from halbig and fetzer as they were clearly not serious about gleaning any info, but more intent on fomenting circus attention.
The only time I will moderate comments is if they appear to be heedlessly inflammatory or profane. I reserve this right, as all commenters are aware when they submit observations.
In my view Fetzer’s efforts over the past twenty years to research deep events, including Sandy Hook, are noteworthy and sincere.
You are good Dr.
And thanks for letting me rant.
Any chance of getting Halbig on here to defend himself? I think we all want to know why his emails were more shock value than professional concern. Also, if you say Fetzer has good intentions for 20 years, then ok, I will read up on him more. Perhaps he just doesn’t communicate well in a live forum – i’ve always said that texting is the lowest form of communicating (with myriad ways of misinterpreting).
As for the VT website, idk… Sure looks nutty to me.
Nick202, I agree. Frankly, if I was a Newtown or any other administrative person / official in receipt of Halbig’s numerous emails of this nature – I’d contact the authorities as well – just to put them on alert. This would certainly be the case if I received his “I’m coming there…” email. I be concerned he was a nut job and would want to know if he had the capacity to show up armed. IF he is legit, he’s got that “bull in a china shop” manner that won’t help his cause. That’s a big IF.
I had never seen any individual post their phone number on the comment section of an article discussing a conspiracy or false flag. Have you?
Ah, no. What does that have to do with anything I said? Sorry, you lost me.
Beth: Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful comment. After reading your words I went to Halbig’s “fundraising” page and what I read made your post even more spot-on, here is what is posted there:
“Updated posted by Wolfgang W Halbig 1 hour ago
We are going to Newtown and cannot wait for the…We are going to Newtown and cannot wait for the great reception that we will receive.
“Look foward to meeting the Police Chief Mike Kehoe and all of his friends.
“Stay tune and let the fireworks begin.
“wolfgang”
Beth, “let the fireworks begin” strikes me as your astute comment about his “bull in a china shop manner” multiplied by 100…
This man has raised $12,507 from 250 people. I hope I am wrong and Halbig does the right thing but the evidence suggests he may be pulling a “Paper Moon” without that adorable Tatum O’Neal at his side…
Mr. Halbig has asked for public records. As far as I can see, that is more than you negative commenters have done.Since you imply that you can do it better than he does, go ahead.
agree….other than grammar and spelling, what has the man done wrong? This article isn’t even about the man and everyone is out in the town square with their torches and pitchforks.
No matter who steps up to the plate right now will be scrutinized. Also, no one can do all this for free. Wolfgang’s heart is in the right place, but maybe he did bite off a little more than he can chew. I think we all need to realize we need to come together somehow to make a dent in this mess. Wolfgang’s the only one I know of that’s tried to rally support and be a leader with the intent of just getting some basic questions answered. He’s not going to be perfect in everyone’s eyes.
@dayw77- I agree, I’m sick of these attacks on Wolfgang. All he has done for 11 months is try to get the public records. I’m not concerned about whether or not his FOIA requests are perfect. I just greatly appreciate someone with his background speaking up and questioning Sandy Hook.
@dmhennen- Exactly, this article is expressing concern about someone attempting to “handle” Wolfgang. Instead of focusing on the issue of the infiltrator and what to do about it, everyone is, as you said “out in the town square with torches and pitchforks.” If this is how we respond to someone genuinely interested in the truth about Sandy Hook, we might as well give up. Wolfgang is the one trying to move things forward–if we just spend years and years writing on the internet about Sandy Hook being a hoax, where exactly is that going to get us?
dayw777:
What you fail to understand is that Wolfgang Halbig’s requests for records fail to follow the procedures as dictated by the State of Connecticut Freedom of Information Act.
I’d highly encourage Halbig to actually read the text of the Act because his poorly written rants are NOT FOIA requests, they are simply the ramblings of a man with poor grammar skills.
Perhaps Wolfgang Halbig would find more success if he focused on following the FOIA procedures instead of focusing on begging the public to fund his “investigation.”
If Wolfgang Halbig had his act together then perhaps the public would be more willing to support him but his failure to be professional and follow procedures have caused many to wonder if Halbig is simply putting on an act in order to fund his retirement.
Here is the text of the State of Connecticut FOIA Law: http://www.ct.gov/foi/cwp/view.asp?a=4161&Q=488540&foiNav=%7C
Finally, since your posts imply that you have a relationship with Wolfgang Halbig, might you ask him to provide an updated photo of himself? I ask this because the two most recent photos of him on his website (and the manipulations of those two photos) strike me as being taken over 10 years ago. It would be helpful for many if Wolfgang Halbig might demonstrate that he is more than just a voice conducting various radio interviews.
I look forward to your feedback. Thank you!
-Nick
Thank you, Nick, for constructive input. I appreciate the info about public records requests. I will ask Mr. Halbig for a recent photo.
Maybe you could clarify to the people on this site that any citizen can request public records. You do not need to have any certain license.
Good post, Nick. With the tidbits I’ve seen of Mr. Halbig’s request for info, they are harassing and hopefully were done before his “legal liaison” stepped in to help him.
Mr. Day Williams. You are a very experienced Attorney based on your website. Are you hinting you may one the Attorney’s that will be representing Mr. Halbig in this case? You seem to specialize in class actions suits. If you could get this egg to crack, I could see a huge class action against many entities. The weakest link right now is Actor Kevin Marc as exposed in this blog. This guy is truly busted and will be easy to break because he is very low on totem pole.
Thank you, Ric, very much. Would you mind emailing me at:
sandyhooktruth22@gmail.com
to follow up?
Ric – He can’t bring a case in CT as he isn’t licensed in the state.
I don’t either Nick or I were being offensive – so I’m hoping you’ll rethink that little attack and post actual contributions.
Et Tu Memory Hole?
Your collective intellectual snobbery is so unfair to this warrior. He may lack for a classical education, but this is not uncommon – the schools of education in our universities traditionally have lower standards than the other colleges. They usually allow an easy foreign culture option rather than require two years of a foreign language. And math courses are designed for poets and dancers, who often lack the portion of the brain responsible for mathematical calculations. Most teachers are highly educated, yet not all – many educators I have known are functionally illiterate. They know just a little more than they teach.
As far as Sandy Hook experts – intellectuals may flock to Smallstorm, but the masses are listening to Reviewmanify. The message is the same.
Wolfgang is an extremely effective speaker. I hope that we can support our “Great Communicator.”
Hi Nick, Thanks for your post and the follow-up info. Yes, very telling in terms of how this guy is going in with “guns” blazing, apparently. Cringe-worthy.
Who in the blazes does he think he is? He’s making every reasonable and logical SHook skeptic look like a conspiracy nut. You know, I just thought of something I’d read…one of his school security web sites was found to have been created in 2012 but two of his references had died at least one year prior – so it raised a few eyebrows as to his actual background and performance (either dead references tell no tales or the experience was from so long ago that the aged references are not appropriate). Don’t know if you’d seen that info.
One would hope he’s the real deal but his bravado and the “puffery” is just not scoring any points with me, I’m sad to say.
You can’t be serious, Beth D. Have you ever made a request for public records in your life? When someone asks for public records, they should receive a prompt response to the effect: “We can provide the records for so many dollars, or we can’t provide the records because of statute xyz.” I’ve never heard of sending police to someone’s house because they asked for public records. Have you?
No one in CT will respond to your request. This is why the AP had to go to a Commissioner for a ruling. The NPD and CSP didn’t even respond to their request until June, 2013, and it was filed 12/13/12. They (CT bureaucrats) believe they are above the law and untouchable. Look at Sedensky, he can lie to the face of the FOI Commissioner and say they can’t answer her questions because there is a “child abuse investigation pending”.
I’m sorry it was filed 12/14/12, not 12/13/12,
@SamanthaCaine–I agree, the bureaucrats in CT are operating as though they are above the law, perhaps because they know they have back up from those with true positions of power in this hijacked nation. And Sedensky is a total disgrace! I can’t believe he had the audacity to avoid questions by saying there’s a “child abuse case pending.” The whole state seems completely corrupt!
Let’s work to end corruption. Honest public officials should be rewarded with promotions. Corrupt public officials should be fired and indicted.
I agree.
I agree with Samantha–as good as your intentions appear to be, what makes you think deposing actors in the SH event is going to result in the truth being revealed?
Some people, when put under oath, tell the truth, even if it is against their personal interests.
So who are you all thinking about questioning under oath?
Agreed – many officials will just arrogantly ignore such pesky little things and the requestor is left to battle for the info.
OK, here we go. Yes, I have made FOIA requests. Yes, I have been threatened by gov officials – even with arrest for digging into things that they didn’t like. I have had to sit my children down to explain to them that there are very bad people in power positions…how adults sometimes have “bullies on the playground” — the bullies are just a little more powerful and the playgrounds a little bigger sometimes.
In addition to the above, I deal with government in my work daily. So, sir, I do not appreciate your disrespectful and condescending attitude. Certainly a big wig attorney like yourself has bigger fish to fry than trolling this blog, yes?
Great post Beth D!
Right, Beth, then you know what Wolfgang Halbig is upa against.
Of course I do – that was never in question. You know the questions and concerns raised already, so won’t bother to repeat.
Thanks Nick – it was a wild time…but we prevailed. I never in my life could imagine that officials could be so corrupt. That was about 7 years ago – and it sure opened my eyes.
Well dayw777, the difference between Beth D and Wolfgang Halbig is that Beth follows the correct procedures and remains professional even in the face of disrespectful words from people such as you.
Also, Beth is not begging for money for her efforts whereas Wolfgang Halbig trolled for donations in his first interview with American Free Press. In that interview, Wolfgang Halbig answered “I want to raise a lot of money” when asked directly what his next step was and what he wanted to do.
Perhaps you might ask Wolfgang Halbig about his July 24, 2012 appeal for $100,000 to investigate what we can do in saving children from committing suicide which he promised to do be “provide to parents technology defender for any student who is having to suffer through this type of fail torture.”
http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/23/what-bullied-bus-monitor-karen-klein-plans-do-703873-donations
My Three Questions:
1. What did Halbig do with the funds he raised through that effort?
2. Has his purported technology defender come to fruition?
3. Is Halbig no longer concerned about “saving children from committing suicide?
Thanks Nick – much appreciated. Thank you also for locating and posting that bazaar request for $100k from Wolfgang Halbig. That post is a double-red flag for me. Yikes. This appears to be pretty shady. This is not the way a professional gets venture funding for a new business. But, he does (probably) have a mortgage on his “3 houses”.
The comment on his one post, “I don’t need to be doing this” is a bit Freudian to me. Perhaps he is a good person who suffers from extremely inarticulate moments, but all of this hasn’t passed the “sniff test” for me.
@BethD.: Hats off to you for pursuing the FOIA requests and explaining things so well to your kids.
Hi Tammie – Thanks for your kind note. I couldn’t believe the extent to which those with power could abuse it. I know there is another contributor of this blog who has gone through a terrible time at the hands of those given authority, as well…and surely many, many more folks.
Thanks to my husband (we make a great team), kids with a “go get ’em” attitude, a sole gal working for the state (who was later transferred from her position ..she ratted out her boss) and a review of the situation from the governor’s office (after appealing to them to investigate the local gov and state office corruption), we succeeded.
It was great fun to sit back afterwards and watch those nasty people cannibalize each other as their house of cards fell.
That experience opened my eyes to the amount of corruption that exists at various levels of government. It’s everywhere. It also made me extremely sympathetic for those who don’t know how / cannot fight it.
It truly is an ugly business – it takes time and some expertise. I suspect Mr. Halbig is not equipped and I’m concerned he may case more harm than good. Assuming, of course he isn’t a shady player.
Beth, I guess I’m slower than usual tonight. I appreciate yours and Nick’s posts. I’m at a loss as to what all the concern about Mr. Halbig is about. If he wants to request records, fine. If we want to do the same, fine.
What are the posters here allegedly guilty of? Lack of Halbig worship? I don’t think anyone here voted for someone to “represent” them. It’s like the Alex Jones dilemma, sometimes he puts something worthwhile out there, sometime he just “grates”.
I’m not sure what his plan is at the moment. Anyone asking for records is not going to get them. Anyone going there and demanding an audience won’t receive one. They will stonewall and refuse.
I suppose with some publicity a group might “force” some attention from them. My guess is that it will involve police. As I’ve said before, I wish him luck if he is truly trying to get answers. I don’t for one minute believe that any will be forthcoming.
It appears that our legal beagle thinks that we’re all hopeless reprobates for not mindlessly throwing our unquestioning support behind Wolfgang and whatever he’s up to. I think we’ve demonstrated healthy skepticism at times.
So, again I’m coming late to the party, are we being taken to the root cellar for “non-belief”? Personally, I’m not looking for another messiah. If he manages to do something useful he’ll get commensurate support. I hope he and his attorney are not waiting for group metanoia from this site.
By all means, true believers should push on. I’ll have time to be ashamed later. Maybe the time spent here ridiculing the posters would be better spent in organizing the “entry to Jerusalem”. That would be a nut worth cracking. The rest of us “nuts” will make up our own minds as to the value of this approach. Like I said before, I wish him luck. I’ll hang onto that choir application just now.
Lophatt…thanks! Glad you’re here…been missing your input.
Well said. It is interesting to me how many hours the attorney has spent here…guess we have done a good job questioning 🙂
The AP filed a request the day of the alleged shooting, they got two pieces of paper in June 2013, after they had to schedule a hearing with the Commissioner. Yes, there is a time frame but CT evidently can’t read calendars. So Mr. Williams, it is contingent upon the response, not the request.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Dr. Tracy, any response to this regarding your initial reaction to Halbig’s and Fetzer’s inflammatory and unprofessional emails to CT personnel for FOIA when this was first posted in February?
There’s a ton of in-fighting happening in the Sandy Hook Truther movement. I think I’ve been very fair covering Halbig (originally posting his interviews and letters to get more attention). Now I come out and urge CAUTION and I’m attacked for being a “Disinfo Agent”.
I remember James Tracy and the “US Intelligence Information Center” affair. I actually posted a video on it after seeing it on this blog – and quickly took it down after learning it was fraudulent. These guys now ‘handling’ Wolfgang Halbig is a HUGE red flag.
Thank you James for posting this. I will try to get more people to come over and take part in your excellent blog.
Here’s my video on the latest:
http://youtu.be/0jYa24Bjgbs
Jeff C., Please send me all evidence you have that Wolfgang Halbig has done anything improper or illegal.. I want to see it. day_williams@sbcglobal.net
I disagree that “there’s a ton of in-fighting” in the truth movement. Thats just jibberish blibberish. Its quite the opposite. We want a new investigation.
Yes, let’s focus on gathering solid evidence and let’s focus on the issues. What really happened on December 14, 2012 in Sandy Hook?
The funny thing is Halbig is now the “Judy Wood of 9/11” of the Sandy Hook movement and he didn’t even come up with an outlandish far-flung theory….he’s asking the same questions as the rest of us. This is seriously the most BIZARRE thing I have ever encountered in the world of government staged events.
Good one!!
@dmhennen–Exactly, all he did is ask the same questions we’ve been asking for over a year and this is how he gets treated.
Well yes, he is asking many of the same questions that others began asking right after the event. It doesn’t appear however, that he has done much in the terms of independent research. He is asking for a large amount of money to assist him in his search for justice. That alone should raise eyebrows and cause people to look into his background and make sure he is legit before donating.
I’m just curious if he has given any interviews on video? Or have they all been audio only?
Before you play the “Halbig-is-greedy” card, check how much it costs to fly from Florida to Connecticut, round trip, to stay one night, and to rent a car.
Not the $12k raised from the public thus far, I’ll tell ya that much.
about $700.
Jeff C you are no disinfo agent in my book you are the F4#king MAN!- you are the only one of a rare few with the GUTS to finger BLOOMBERG for this!
James, besides outing wolfgang publicly on this blog, have you made any attempt to talk to him on a personal level? you are very smart and he could use a good handler, like yourself. to steer his actions. Or you can write about what he is doing and toss doubt into the people looking for the truth! James, i know your a smart man. Please explain why, you of all people would air this out on a blog and not talk to wolf privately about it?
Now that i think about it, it was you that Anderson Cooper wanted to discredit, not Wolf. hmmmm. (see what i did there)
For whatever it’s worth – I didn’t see James’ post as “outing” Wolfgang – it looks like just some general facts were noted. I didn’t find it offensive. “Outing” is something one on the defense charges.
Prof. Tracy isn’t “outing” Halbig, he’s “distancing” himself from him.
Agreed, this I can see. Yours is better terminology, AJ.
well put, it is exactly what he’s doing.
@Zurnmusic-I agree, I think it would have been better to express such concerns to Wolfgang privately.
Without having read all of this, I’ve been suspicious of Halbig since the beginning. I haven’t wrote anything about it because the whole thing is just getting disgusting and I don’t trust anybody writing about Sandy Hook.
I’d like to know why Halbig had Leland Management as an interest on his Facebook. That’s the HOA that ran the community that Trayvon was shot in. The Trayvon thing was another obvious psyop even though many cling to it because they threw a bone to conservative social warriors.
WTF is going on in Central Florida with all of the hoax stories?
As long as we’re searching for heroes or authority they’ll play us over and over again. I feel like this whole thing entered another stage with the release of the report and the release of Halbig.
The Leland thing is hardly all that I have but whats the point of putting it out when most people are just going to scream “shill” at you? I hope everybody enjoys the ride
As long as we’re searching for heroes or authority they’ll play us over and over again.
Yes, that’s exactly right. That’s why, for me, the biggest red flag of all regarding Halbig is the fact that he didn’t work together with the prominent Sandy Hook researchers who did all the heavy lifting and who generally agree on the major problems and weaknesses of the story. Instead, he’s out there stirring up interest and gaining the research community’s trust, but without being properly vetted (except by a few, like Brendan Hunt and TeamWakeEmUp). Talk is cheap, ya know, although it looks like Halbig is making it expensive with his fundraising.
If we had a nation of skeptics, we’d be in a lot better shape.
Yet he was the only one making foia requests
That we know of. Others may have attempted FOIAs
Larry: Did you read the gibberish that you call FOIA requests? Professor Tracy did a great public service by sharing these “requests” in his article “Wolfgang Halbig’s Quest for Truth.” I’d highly encourage you to read this article because Halbig’s poor writing skills and use of salty language demonstrates his complete lack of professionalism. .
Nick202, I still have not seen your FOIA requests. Since you know so much, teach everybody how to do it. Nobody has ever built a monument to a critic.
sandyhooktruth22@gmail.com
Larry, I was heartened to see your comment above, I doubt that anyone not connected to the press, or maybe a personal injury lawyer, would be making FOIA requests in Newtown.
I recall Mark Fuhrman’s book, “Murder in Connecticut,” and the walls he had to climb in order to review case files. It takes a strong person to stand up to their closed and threatening ranks.
Halbig deserves a lot of credit.
@Sandy- I totally agree. Wolfgang deserves a lot of credit. I haven’t heard of anyone else (other than the press) making FOIA requests. If people are so concerned about the errors he has made in such requests, then perhaps they should offer to help him or do their own.
[…] Sandy Hook skeptic Professor James Tracy warns that Halbig may be coming under the influence of questionable […]
Perhaps Tracy and Halbig were both warning us when Halbig’s purported poorly written correspondence was published here. He may of started with good intentions, but may have been compromised.
Honesty is always the best policy, but at times it is difficult to stay with the course and not avoid perceived embarrassment on one’s own naiveté. Interesting all the new names that have appeared in the comment section on this subject.
Hopefully, we can all unite, and not worry about who should have credit for a certain discovery and expose the criminals for who they are.
I believe we can unite together. More and more people wake up every day to the deceitful official story that is Sandy Hook and that looks continue if not increase exponentially.
Hi Kathy, I was also interested to see all of the new names out here. Wonder where these folks have been 🙂
I agree with the comments, I’ve thought long and hard about Wolfgang Halbig and couldn’t make my mind up about him. His enthusiasm seemed genuine, to find out the truth about Sandy Hook..” His Quest for Truth”… but to me he seemed to be’ over doing’ it when talking about his credentials, do they matter so much than the facts of the episode on Dec 14th?.. Every time I heard him speak it was, what he did in the past and how powerful his job was.. i am hoping they haven’t got to him and taken over ( whoever they are)… I have a feeling he will go on, but the findings will only be allowed to be known by him.. and then he will try and convince everyone that ” HE knows it happened”… so we have to believe him.. I hope I am wrong in my thinking, but I thought I would just put out my feelings. Thanks Mr Tracy for this excellent blog.
Yes, so much advice…….and its all “free”.
The new names include new agents. Be careful who you agree with.
I think he’s got handlers, I just got a post to my page to support WH and make a donation to P.S. http://www.gofundme.com/7jb3ww which is NOT http://www.SandyHookJustice.com. Not that I would donate to anyone at this point, but they are spreading this website as Wolfgang’s and taking donations…..
Would one of you expert cyber researchers please follow up on the post from ajmacdonaldjr regarding one Kenneth Feinberg, a jewish attorney who seems to be collecting massive residual fees from all of the events we have been pondering (9/11, SH, VT, BP Spill, Aurora, Boston)? Who is this guy? Who is his network? I found Feinberg’s wiki site to be extremely revealing. For a “compensation czar” to be so heralded, he’s got to be part of the inner circle.
Howdies OldMan — have you seen these videos by the wonderful PaulStalService?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlhDQlKTBds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJAvobSjSf8
You Guys are so Cool taking care of OldMan. Its like the the ’60’s and 70’s again when people respected thier elders.
I had not seen those, thanks! Wow, I am speechless after viewing that stuff.
http://youtu.be/_7rigKKGC_I
Heartfelt thanks to mangrove and larry for sharing. The second vid is 5 star and I hope everyone who hasn’t watched it gives it a view. Kudos to PaulStalService. Here is a brief epic film that represents our current dilemma. It is a cornucopia of recent evil, salted by greed and power, that is potent in misery for the 99%. Coming soon to all neighborhoods if we cannot unite.
In case it has not already been noted among the comments: http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com now redirects to a parking page with this message:
NOTICE: This domain name expired on 2/22/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.
Trying to solve the minor mystery of to whom you’re referring, I clicked on the http://www.sandyhookinvestigation.com – domain name no longer exists. Then I Googled “US Intelligence Information Center” and got this article as the top result. Ok, could you tell us the name of the individual you believed infiltrated Wolfgang? Thanks.
In this ‘mystery’ we have the good guys who are working to expose a huge crime and the bad guys who are determined to keep all evidence of their crime sealed from public scrutiny.
We have seen plenty of evidence of how hard they try to discredit this blog with paid trolls who attack, distract and ramble on in an effort to discourage participation.
It is not surprising they have hidden the evidence on the internet that may have exposed them further. These handlers are not a person but a crime syndication, naming them in public without solid evidence would be suicidal.
Deanna Spingola was on Mami’s personality “Nick” aka “bread-n-circuses” yesterday. 3 hours, in which during the 3rd hour DS recited her usual list of ad-hom smears against W.Halbig. A Mami’s mod subsequently closed the associated comment thread, before removing at least 4 comments.
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/special-episode-of-circus-maximus-with.html
My critique of the show, including reposting the removed Mami’s comments:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=698416&viewfull=1#post698416
My efforts to speak directly to Mr Halbig were referred to Thomas Lapp who apparently is the Admin of his Facebook and Donation pages. When I insisted that I speak directly with Mr Halbig, I was accused of being a ‘troll’ and told to just ‘submit a list of questions’.
I think that the fact that he has not shown up on this page to address these accusations directly is quite telling.
At this point, I would assume that whatever good intentions ‘he’ had have been hijacked by people with an ulterior motive. David Weiss and Thomas Lapp.
Feel free to talk to me or email me. I’m his legal liaison.
Ok, please provide your email and an explanation as to why I can’t speak directly to Mr Halbig
day_williams@sbcglobal.net
OK. 1. Were you paid by donated funds to represent The Truth Movement? Or to represent Wolfgang Halbig? 2. Where is Wolfgang, and why does he now have a cadre of handlers? 3. Will Wolfgang probably pay the $100,000 thousand dollars back?
You may email your questions to me at sandyhooktruth22@gmail.com
Ah, c’mon Day, we don’t have any secrets here. Why not answer Peace’s inquiry?
I would also be interested to know if this attorney in NV is working for compensation in FL. Will look forward to learning more since he is so active on the blog.
@peacebewithyoursoul, why would Halbig pay back the money?
This is what is being referred to when you read ‘probably’. Read it and weep all those not truly questioning Wolfgang. Notice the profile pic on this page..
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfgang-Halbig-Exposed/538824329571210?ref=br_tf
People go on kickstarter every day to promote an idea and ask for money. People go to their bankers and ask for money to start businesses. People go to their families with ideas and ask for money. This is no different. Halbig had an idea to help kids. He wanted to raise some money. It didn’t work out. How does asking for money to promote an idea make someone a fraud?
Probably all in the delivery (sent up the yellow / red flags).
@peacebewithyoursoul, why would you assume someone is “representing” the truth movement? How do you represent a movement? He is representing Halbig. Halbig never said he’s doing all this on our behalf. Halbig is simply asking questions on his own.
Tony – excellent.
“Legal Liaison” is that the same thing as “attorney” or does that just mean you’re giving him legal advice? You’ve quoted yourself as both Liaison and representing Wolfgang. Which is it? Or is it the same?
Interesting. We’ll have to poke around and see what’s to be found on these jokers. People who are overly defensive and spout the “troll” accusation a little too quickly are always suspect in my book. Sorry that happened to you – and thank you for trying to reach out.
So the people who shout troll are trolls? What does that make you? I’m not being rude, it just struck me as a bit ironic.
Yes – Often times those who slap on the “troll” card on others WAY too quickly are unable to bring a relevant argument to the table. So, they call them trolls. Sad, actually – when one cannot debate their point intelligently.
What does that make me? I dunno – I’m not part of your equation, but I’m not a troll. Nor do I often throw the “troll” card at folks.
What sort of point were you trying to make? You don’t mean to be rude? I’m sorry, but you were.
I’ve been here a lot longer than you have, I do believe. I have contributed to articles and useful conversation and debate. I am not a troll and I try to be respectful even to those I disagree with….except when they are being rude to me or the other long-time posters.
I agree, who are these guys that just showed up calling people trolls that ive seen no body of work from? Im getting this on my vids too.
Hi Larry – thanks for your note. Interesting – sorry they’re getting on your vids, too. Maybe we’re hitting some nerves, eh?
calm down, I thought it was funny. you were calling people that call people trolls, trolls. kinda like a what’s that infinity symbol called a mobius?
I don’t think you are a troll.
FIshandroaches, Okay. It is unfortunate at times that humor doesn’t translate well in emails and blog posts. Thanks for the reply – much appreciated. I’m glad you’re here.
http://youtu.be/HRqLV4DiQRE
Been away enjoying the weekend. Found this tonight before hitting the sack. If this alone is not enough to warrant a criminal investigation, I don’t know what else there is at this point.
I am with you f&r. The folks who welcome all new trolls with open arms are very suspect to me. Also those who post so many none comments, so that their name is the only one to appear in the most recent, makes me wonder what are they trying to hide.
Posted a comment on chem trails and it was turned into a long dissertation on how the Germans are in control of our military and then another [yawn] long story about aliens…
Kathy – you’ve directed comments at me before which I have tolerated reasonably well. I have never once mentioned the content of your as bringing nothing at all to the table. If you are insinuating I have something to hide you are so far off track its laughable. Thanks for the chuckle, however.
Kathy, you are turning into a very boring person – repeating yourself again and again. Mind controlled? Repeaters do not bring anything of interest.
Well said, Anne B.
Found this interesting. Waterbury, close to Newtown, just had a big shootout.
http://rep-am.com/news/local/792814.txt
“In my 23-year career, I can’t recall us having this amount of shots fired in one incident,” Police Chief Vernon Riddick Jr. said.”
Kathy, calm down. No aliens were spotted among the strippers.
Hey Anne B. Guess that one didn’t make national news because of the lack of students at the club. Looks like the place has had lots of issues before. Sadly they’ll use this in their gun control agenda. Hey, not real sure about the aliens, though – some residents of CT seem other worldly 🙂
Tony, who are you and why do you feel the need to speak “directly” with Mr. Halbig? Why do you speak in an authoritative tone? It sounds to me like you’re trying to “interview” Halbig to see if he’s “fit” for the job, and you’ll decide if he’s worthwhile to continue in the movement. Am I right?
Hello?
With all the mud-flinging at Halbig after his arrival on the scene, this article by Dr. Tracy is the first legitimate point to question Halbig.
To all you people jumping down Halbig’s throat because he is unprofessional and has poor grammar — professionalism and being a fraud are so far apart on the spectrum and they mean nothing to me. I now believe that most of you on this blog who are making this connection are FRAUDS indeed. You are the disinfo agents.
If Halbig has been hijacked, this will be very sad. The powers who run the show have deep connections and lots of resources. To trick a lonely old guy like Halbig might not be to hard.
To all the real truth seekers out there – keep your head clear and follow many sources. Dr. Tracy’s blog has smelled like sulfur lately with all the agents snooping around and posting bogus comments.
Perhaps Dr Tracy’s blog was a trap to begin with. Ever consider that? Prof Tracy asserts the Boston bombing was a hoax, which there is no evidence of, and evidence to the contrary. Why would he do that? Certainly he is smart enough to know the difference between a bomb and a “smoke generator’. I would love to debate the good Professor regarding Boston… but he hasn’t yet agreed to do so, and neither has Professor Fetzer. I wonder why? Because they know they would lose?
I disagree about Boston. 100% set up by someone, and not the two brothers. I have already proven on a prior post how the cover of Sports Illustrated was set up. This is only one of the small pieces of the Boston puzzle.
ajmacdonaldjr,
Totally disagree with you. Boston was as fake as Sandy Hook…. and there’s tons of evidence available to illustrate that it was a carefully planned FEMA drill. Start educating yourself, sir. A thorough primer can be found at Dave McGowan’s site…. scroll down to The Boston Marathon Bombings.
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com
you sir are simply an idiot, boston was obviously fake , what exactly is your claim to fame
he is simply a limited hangout operative that pops in to tell newbies that boston was real despite all the evidence people give him. waste of time corresponding with IT.
ajmacdonaldjr,again your an idiot ,and your dumb ,as a rock..boston is as fake as threy come. if you cant see that you is a troll or just one of the dumbest people alive,please go play in the traffic,quick
AJ, forgive me but who are you that these two gentlemen should schedule you into their workdays for a debate? I apologize but I don’t recognize your name – are you a member of the media? Or ? I am seriously asking so I can weigh out your comment. Thank you kindly!
Boston bombing was not a hoax? News to me…
I’m honestly surprised to see that here.
The Wolfgang camp sure is ripe with people yelling about trolls.
“Perhaps Dr Tracy’s blog was a trap to begin with” followed by “Boston bombing was real”. My Dog knows it was a hoax.
Here we go: Everyone’s a “Fraud” and “Troll”.
This is the worst thing that could happen to this movement and the best thing for the perpetrators.
I have heard almost everyone that has done a lot of research on SHE be called a fraud or call someone else a fraud now.
Even Wolfgang’s site now has a scathing letter from Fretzer calling out Tracy and Smallstorm.
I find it interesting some of the most dominate blogger’s on this site haven’t even weighed in.
We had the Red pill and the Blue pill. I guess we need an Orange pill for non-trolls and a Green pill for trolls. This is truly upsetting.
I’m going radio silent.
Have we officially lost SHE just as we did 911?
We’re going to keep pushing forward, and Sandy Hook is a lot more porous then 9/11 I think a tipping point can be reached. We won’t give up and we will move on from this infighting but with that said if Halbig is false we will need to crush that opposition so as not to let the division flourish, which means it may get worse before it gets better. It’ll be OK let’s keep pushing forward, in fact check out a new revelation about an actor was released in a video recently. We keep pressing on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4e01mm8Eck
The sick, evil bastards who run this country think the red pill – blue pill option is just too easy. The pills are countless as they spin everything as much as they can to keep us guessing.
I don’t know if this has already been posted here but it’s a video by Namesnot Mary. She digs into Halbig’s background. This is part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS3y6BtlhQI
Be sure to watch part two as well. Interesting stuff.
Mr. Tracy, thanks for the article and resulting dialog. It must be noted that this is more than likely Halbig’s “first rodeo” in the false flag/staged event arena. I think most of the discussion in this thread relates to people arguing on how he should be conducting himself. He’s only recently (11 months ago) gone down the rabbit hole and now finds himself overwhelmed with accusations and advice in a world he didn’t know existed. People are critiquing his style and and Halbig isn’t even aware that there is certain etiquette in the conspiracy theory arena and he’s being told he doing it all wrong. I’m glad that there is this much interest, but it is comical to watch unfold, because we have “a live one here” type of frenzy that’s taking place in the public and in real time.
It’s not his first ride. For example he’s quoted in an article about the Zimmerman affair. Why is he coming to the defence of police and also has Leland Management (the HOA of the neighborhood) on his Facebook?
http://www.wptv.com/news/residents-in-sanford-fl-come-to-the-defense-of-police-department-after-shooting-of-trayvon-martin
I love that excerpt, I think it’s completely meaningless. “We don’t know who this guy is but he says we don’t know what happened”.
You can find various other older articles on NewsLibrary.com, but only small excerpts (which you can often take and search on Google to get the full article). One of his earlier appearances was in an article about his school district considering the purchase of some “black box” weapon scanner that the FBI insisted was a scam.
Or here’s an article from 1997 about a student breaking into his house and stealing a firearm and ammunition. Halbig was director of security at Seminole schools at the time.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1997-02-21/news/9702201095_1_halbig-seminole-deputy-sheriffs
Oh golly gee, I screwed up again…
@colum: First ride in False Flag/Staged Events.
Oh pahleeze…I think the references come from the fact that the fellow is supposedly educated, was a teacher, a police officer and a business consultant and yet does not appear to be able to assemble written communications in a proper and effective manner. Most of us here are not “into” full throng attacks on those we don’t know – rather we question things that don’t pass the sniff test – like the big “sell” when asking for donations (“…you can tell your grandchildren about it…”), etc.
Mr. Halbig is his late 60s. How many people in their late 60s do you know who are proficient on the internet? When Mr. Halbig grew up, they used manual typewriters. He had assistants to write reports for him. He will tell you himself that he is not proficient on the internet. Please forgive him his typos.
spelling and grammar have little to do with internet proficiency.
What, if anything, would satisfy you that Wolfgang Halbig is genuinely interested at getting at the truth about Sandy Hook?
Agreed, Zem. That was a lame argument. This “legal liaison” is not doing his not-quite-a-client any favors.
It’s not the typos. Trust. us.
“Trust us” What the he!! does that mean? You represent a group that knows all that is true? Did this revelation come to you when the aliens stole your all telling manuscript from your locked car that still was locked?
Kathy – With apologies for not clarifying, I was speaking on behalf of those questioning Day and were engaged in the active dialogue last night. You were not. So, why would you presume that any comment was direct to you or presume it included you and anyone else not engaged in the repartee?
That was pretty nasty. If you can’t keep up with the posts, please don’t assume things that aren’t there.
Kathy, you poor woman. You must have lost sleep over that one since you’re still dwelling on it and doing your part of trolling. The answer I previously gave was not directed to you, but to dinophile in a direct question from her. You had no obligation to read and comment on it since your name did not come up in the conversation. Pathetic. My apologies to dinophile on your behalf.
Thanks Anne B. Well done.
That one has been here before, as you well know. She must be off her meds this week 🙂
Responding to Anne, who said she was responding to ME: Anne, I don’t know what comment of mine you were referencing, because no comment of mine appears in the thread. In fact, very few of my comments–OR YOURS–appear, at all, in any of these posts, and I’ve gone back quite a ways. Your comments are among the most substantive.
So either Dr. Tracy is removing our comments after they’ve been posted, or there is a hacker who is doing so.
Dr. Tracy, can you tell us?
@dayw777: My friend’s dad is close to 90 and does pretty well online. My friend is close to 60 and extremely proficient online. Pls spare us the ageism. If Mr. Halbig can’t type without multiple typos he should hire an assistant.
If Halbig is not very “proficient in internet use” his internet presence could easily have been hijacked. Those absurdly written emails were sent off just to annoy and to be able to call harassment, not at all necessarily by Wolfgang himself. We have no idea who is hiding behind an internet presence. For all we know, Wolfgang can be as legit as any grandpa, and have 80% of all the so called communication done in his name done by any agent or prankster. If he’s not proficient in internet use, he might not even know his identity has been taken over.
Someone needs to talk to this guy on the phone with this scenario in mind, and try to investigate wether he sent any of those particular e-mails at all! He might have sent other e-mails and thinks that we mean those.
Consider Wolfgang Halbig a victim of cyber warfare.
Why not send written letters then? or perhaps a telegraph?
Beth, just because we have all seen some email correspondence including Halbig since November, don’t assume to know how Halbig submitted his original FOIA requests early last year. After months of no response, it appears to me that he started whipping out emails to people in disgust. Are you thinking that is how he requested the documents originally? Maybe that’s what others are assuming as well.
Hi Dan. I’m hoping his original request was indeed compliant. But, those other communications are positively cringe-worthy. Bless his heart, he just needs some guidance, I think….and to lose those who aren’t helping his cause.
Does anyone know if the people of Connecticut are waking up to Sandy Hook being a hoax?? I know that there was a CT police officer who immediately questioned the event and was recently on Fetzer’s radio show. I kind of assume that if that police officer was suspicious, there have to be others. Plus, I did hear somewhere that 250 CT police officers signed a statement saying that they would not enforce the gun confiscations. It just seems like what we really need is for the people of CT to get on board and support Wolfgang and the rest of us in getting to the truth.
Yes, I too would like to know how many are awake in Connecticut.
Amanda4321 as to your question as to whether or not people in Ct r waking up to the hoax? Well, here is perhaps a small example as to whether or not the are. I clean houses and the other day I went to a client’s house whose daughter had returned from. 6 mo. Internship at Disney World, while there she met a girl who lived in CT, they became friends and the girl was invited to come to OK for a visit. I happened to be cleaning their house on one of the days of her visit. I couldn’t wait for her to wake up that morning and come downstairs so I could talk to her about Sandy Hook when I finally met and talked to her she told me she lived in a small town about 30 min away, by the way, this girl was 21 and had graduated from a university in CT. One of my questions was “so what do you all think in CT, do u and your friends think it happened?” She replied “we’ll in the beginning and for some time we of course believed it happened, then we started watching videos about it not really happening on our Facebook pages so now we are questioning it and now a lot of us don’t believe it.” Then she said “our big question is where are all the kids if they didn’t die” I explained how we thought they were older, hence people weren’t recognizing them because we were being shown somewhat younger photos of the kids like 4 years younger perhaps.” I then asked if she and her friends had seen the Super Bowl video and she had not. She was not fixated on the Sandy Hook event like we are but she and her friends did have a passing interest, however they are young and are more interested in meeting guys than following this story even if it did happen in a town nearby. I asked her to watch Sofia’s video and let me know what she thought and I gave her my email address but never heard back from her. The girl who invited her to Tulsa is now in CT visiting her over spring break so I will have to ask her Monday if while she was in CT if anyone in their age group ever even brought up the topic of SH.
I didn’t climb on the Obama bandwagon, but I’m in favor of Hope and Change despite both being hijacked.
I’m not climbing on the Wolfgang Halbig bandwagon, but I’m in favor of exposing the Sandy Hook Hoax despite the possibility that the truth is being hijacked.
Apples and oranges? Probably, but still it all comes down to developing trust. And what both of these characters have in common is that they say what we want to hear, but they don’t walk the talk. Perhaps Halbig will prove me wrong because he’s talking about some serious walking in Newtown. I did give him the benefit of the doubt initially, but then these confounded red flags popped up. Bummer.
In the end, I’m suspicious of Halbig’s true purpose which could simply be to divide and conquer the Sandy Hook truth community. But it’s ironic to me that some truth seekers wouldn’t apply the same skepticism to Halbig that they do of the Sandy Hook story itself. Why should Halbig be insulated from scrutiny, especially given that his self-proclaimed story was almost too good to be true, and his professionalism, associations, and judgement are now in question?
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Agreed, Mangrove. Especially when the person in question insinuates he is doing it as a sort of public service. There is nothing wrong with questioning to ensure the person is indeed who they say they are and his motives are genuine. Plus, I seriously do not want this guy to fall flat on his face and be held up as the nutty poster child against those who are seeking the truth.
More on Sandy Hook is posted here: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking/page125
And here’s a new thread on the hoaxes and media fakery: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76279-Hollywoodization-of-Terror-News-Media-Fakery-Hoaxes
And for those interested, it’s an open forum, anyone can join
Oh so I was right? What do you know. And so what does this imply about Fetzer? Follow the chain of reasoning.
I don’t know what this implies about Fetzer, but I feel he has been conciously derailed lately. Going down the PID hole, the division over the Hero (Halbig), and recently, some weird story about a woman who calls him and says she’s related to a crime family in Toronto that are behind basically all unsolved murders in the western hemisphere, such as Kennedys, Alphabet murders, Zodiac killer, etc. Now these murderes have “tried to hit” this 70 y o woman who keeps calling Fetzer, but somehow failed to succeed in killing her. Duh? They have also expressed similar threats towards Fetzer, but obviously either not tried or failed, without him even noticing. Some professional killers. It’s all a hoax.
It’s very targeted stuff to get this very emotional and moral man upset and stop him from thinking rationally. He loves/loved heros such as Snowden, Piper, Halbig… and becomes irrational whenever they are accused of being dishonest. At long last I think he has seen through the Snowden psyop. Piper and others – half way, and Halbig – not at all.
Fetzer has a lot of guest and a lot of listeners, so it’s best he is derailed as much as possible, that seems to be the strategy.
I have three concerns with Fetzer.
1. he suffers from relevancy deprivation syndrome and needs the limelight. That is a bad fault for a researcher because it makes him leap from topic to topic instead of focusing and finishing on a single topic. It also disables his critical thinking too much.
2. he is derailed a lot, but he derails lots of other people too. That is not his responsibility, it is the clear responsibility of the followers not to be such blind bloody sheep!
3. his imprimatur when given to eg Halbig lets Halbig penetrate people’s defences way deeper than he would ever be able to on his own. This comes from a desire by Fetzer to be part of a clique or community. It’s a natural human desire, but gee whiz we have to make sure that there are increments or steps between acquaintance and blood brother. Trust but verify.
You might be right, FlyingTiger.
I think it’s an inherent human problem that we want Heroes (always good) and someone to follow (always right). We cannot live with the realization that some of the people we look up to are right about some stuff and wrong about other things. They might be biased about some things and willfully misleading on yet other things. People have their idiosyncratic reasons, obviously. We have to keep this in mind the whole time as we interact with other people. They may be partly right and partly wrong/misled/misleading. People are not angels and devils.
Off topic: FlyingTiger have you listened to the new “Toronto crime family” lady weirdness. Talk about handler…
Toronto crime family…
Going back decades there was substantial information on CIA operations in Canada, and several anomalies in Toronto- a fake ID for James Earl Ray that was a dead ringer for a “big game hunter” executive, a conversation at the airport someone overheard that put the conspirators together re JFK, a Marseilles connection via Canada for the JFK shooters… Similar stuff.
The Toronto crime family BS coming out now is pure distilled BS, designed to cloud the issue with a sprinkle of truth over a pack of structured lies. I am looking into it now, and will post on it once I have something substantive.
My sentiment is that intelligence people would easily be able to create a persona for this lady with all the little tidbits of information that Fetzer and Dammegard are so impressed by. What I cannot comprehend is that they would even consider such ruthless killers cold “be after” this lady and take shots at her getting on the bus AND NOT SUCCEED?! Like her hiding in her apartment would actually help her. Geez. It’s a case of the x-files – they WANTto believe.
Have you seen this? Top Ten Reasons: Jim Fetzer and Friends are Sunstein Shills & Operation Halbig – http://www.takeourworldback.com/fetzersunstein.htm
Seen it, reblogged it, tell everyone about it. Yours is the position I personally feel is correct. There is evidence supporting your statements in their behaviour quite apart from all the information you provide.
It’s time that independent researchers adhered to some minimum standards.
Read it, reblogged it, push it every chance I get. 🙂
I think I got the link from you. Thanks! 🙂
I started to read this article, and got as far as point one, where the writer says that, “fakery claims have been robustly refuted,” and then offers a link to snopes.
I actually skimmed through the article. Typical disinfo strategy. Most of what is written about 911 is fairly legitimate but then he has to tie it to Israel with no evidence provided. oh, I forgot the dancing Isrealis did it.
it seems that the purpose of the article is to tie Dr. Tracy and Smallstrom to a long list of known shills and to attack the truth on SH and Boston. There is a huge effort to keep legitimate 911 research and legitimate SH researchers apart. That is why there is a constant bombardment of this site with judy wood and nukes at WTC and no plane leaps in logic. It gets really tiresome and there are many real people who fall for it.
here is a link to a nice break from all of this for a second.
http://thequietplaceproject.com/thequietplace
enjoy
Reblogged this on Flying Tiger Comics.
Have read through most of these posts. My take is that Halbig, if nothing else (good, bad, indifferent) is a focal point of dissent.
Perhaps that is the real message…he will continue to divide and perhaps conquer the narrative. Is he really that important to solving the case or raising awareness among the fence sitters?
Personally, I wasn’t that impressed from the outset. Just an intuitive reaction. Maybe my sixth sense is working overtime; maybe I am on to something. I await his next move and will judge.
Well, Mr. Tracy wrote the divisive post, not Wolfgang Halbig. Mr. Halbig has appeared on several shows, and you won’t hear him casting aspersions on other investigators or their associates.
I represent Wolfgang Halbig because someone has to protect his interests at this stage. By the way, it will cost at least $5000.00 to retain a Ct. attorney in this matter to fight for public records. Donate if you wish.
In my personal opinion, I say, if you don’t like Wolfgang Halbig, then don’t donate to him. If you like someone else who is digging for the truth, you are free to donate to them. If you want to use your resources to do it on your own, go for it. But do something constructive. Everyone on this site certainly has a lot of energy, I’ll say that.
As examples of constructive work: Anyone who wants to can request public records from Ct. agencies and federal agencies. Anyone who wants to can pick up the phone and call public officials in Ct. and in federal agencies. You can write to newspapers and other media outlets. You can sit down with an editor or producer. You can set up a conference about the topic. Anyone who wants to can go to Newtown and talk to whoever is willing to talk to them about the incident. Of course, be as polite as you can and don’t break the law, whatever you do.
In my personal opinion, Mr. Tracy and others would better spend their time digging for solid evidence about what happened on 12/14/12 than creating so much discord.
Professor Tracy does not create “discord”. He is even handed, chooses his words carefully be they verbal or in writing and has always taken great care to be professional, patient and fair.
Most here have the utmost respect for him because he has earned it.
Now, could you explain what you mean by this:
“…because someone has to protect his interests at this stage.?
I agree with you Tammie. I believe when Wolfgang came on to the scene he somewhat partnered up with James. I was in contact with Wolfgang after his first podcast with AFP. We were in frequent contact discussing SH and even a conference in FLA. I then noticed on a website that all questions and inquiries were to be made to someone else. I didn’t hear from WH for a couple of weeks. I worried of course that he was not what he claimed to be or that something may have happened to him. We did finally talk last week and he told me that he had partnered up with a couple of investigators and an attorney to accomplish his mission. He seems distant now. I tried him again this morning and wasn’t able to speak with him to ask him his view of what is happening here. I see it this way: He came on with full gusto, we all had big hopes that he could lead us through an independent investigation. Now since he’s got an attorney and investigators, he’s probably sticking with them and what they are advising him to do. He has a good heart, his intentions are good, his background gives him creds, but maybe he’s bit off a bit more than he can chew. I am not giving up on him, but have been dismayed by his disappearing act.
Agreed, Tammie. Well, said.
Mr. williams your too on top of everyones comments. You asked me to email you I did. I have nothing but clear headed opinions unless I get some of that Sandy Hook Cash and I’ll sell everyone out: HOO HEE HAHA Sandy Hook SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH America 4 Sell. NOT ME
Im on the west coast My time time stamp says !:25 am. its was Ten pm here in so cal sleep tight
Ric, I can’t wait to hear your report that your email to Day brought a wealth of information (haha). Isn’t it amazing the PR job being done by that one?
Mr. Williams (dayw777): You have commented here thirty plus times. In a few days, Prof Tracy and his team will release another article regarding SH. And all of the interested community will again voice their opinions and discoveries. If you are charging Wolfgang by the hour, in 10 or 20 minute increments, how will you ever focus on the important work at hand if you continue to respond to blogs?
Here is a promise from me to you, and don’t waste your time preparing a contract. If you and your client, Mr. Halbig, can produce one iota of undeniable and court-upheld truth that proves Sandy Hook was a staged hoax, I will send your group a check for at least $5,000.00 to help defray project expenses.
Now please get back to work and prove you are serious about getting to truth and justice.
OldMan…you rule!
Mr. Williams is not licensed in CT and cannot go to court there – but he can likely receive a tidy fee from donations for his PR and other efforts – and likely a referral fee from a CT attorney willing to pay one to get Halbig referred to him/her. In the meantime, I suspect he will be a rabid poster on this and various other blogs. Maybe the economy is such that he doesn’t have much estate planning and product liability work to do these days.
Or maybe, instead of speculating about others’ motives, Mr. Williams is dedicated to constructive activity with the purpose of discovering the truth about Sandy Hook.
Or…he’s making bazaar Youtube videos or other works of insignificance. Otherwise, I wonder what sort of ground-breaking information he would have to report for the end of this week.
It has been my observation that James Tracy takes pains to hold every element of this Sandy Hook event to scrutiny. I appreciate his efforts. In my opinion, anyone publicly researching this event should welcome analysis of their motives, associations, etc. A vetting is not a witch hunt.
We are in agreement that digging for solid evidence is the best use of our time. However, when there’s a rush to focus so much attention on one person, the who’s and why’s should be discussed. Ideally, rationality will prevail, and we will continue along a course that does not put all of our eggs in one basket, so to speak.
We’re lucky to have him honestly. It would make sense Anderson Cooper threw his weight hard from the get go to try and derail him. If I haven’t said it before James Tracy, thank you. You are good for this cause.
While I agree with what you say here, Kyle, I don’t like the idea that James should be talked about this way. I’m certain that many of us want to see that he is thanked for his fine work, but we should not fall into the “good for this cause” trap.
Of course, I can’t speak for him, but I feel quite confident that this is not a “cause” for him. Neither is the Kennedy hit, 911, Boston, or anything else. His “cause” is honesty in the public press, and the almost complete absence of it in our time.
If anyone thinks I’m splitting hairs here, I assure you that’s not the case.
I have not weighed in on the Wolf phenomenon, because it is frankly boring to me, and I’m not doing it now. I am in fact somewhat amazed at the number of comments it draws, and the intensity of emotion that surrounds it. In my opinion, why does anyone care? What I’m writing about here is the imputation that Dr. Tracy has some desire to “fix” the public misperception of what happened that day. He may feel that way, but unless I’m missing something he has given us absolutely no indication of it. We must, in my opinion, respect what he’s actually doing, not impute to him things he’s NOT doing.
That is perhaps what the problem with Wolf has been–the perception trouble he has fallen into. As I say, though, it does not interest me. The point is, James has been absolutely scrupulous in avoiding that trap, and we should recognize that; if he is to be congratulated, I’d aver that his perfect success in keeping to the original plan is the thing we should be thanking him for. His challenge from the start was not to be pulled off track, and he has not been. He’s not leading any crusade.
Again, I can’t speak for him. But I have been here a long time, and have observed his media presence closely, and I don’t think I have observed wrongly.
See, Sandy Hook was/is the flavor of the month. All our host does, so far as I can tell, is observe how the press treats these spectacles, and points out whether the agents of the MSM are craven or honest. He never cheerleads. He never carries torches. The underlying story, whatever he thinks about it, is never a “cause” here at MHB, for him. Certainly, plenty who comment here do those things, and he’s fine with allowing them to present their case–so long as they keep the conversation relatively coherent.
We can say a few things about how he manages these conversations, as these false flags emerge over time. One is that he is a pretty good troll-blocker, so the conversation tends to be useful, month after month. Another is that he does not interact all that much. He lets us follow our own path; if something is badly amiss, he steps in. If something needs to be responded to, he will do it. But it is mostly his articles that tell his tale, and never do they betray the heart of a cause-carrier. He is what an academic is supposed to be, all the time.
For what it’s worth.
I think you’re right about respecting and understanding his true position. Maybe not what I want to hear, but so be it.
Just to add my “two cents”. Prof. Tracy posts interesting pieces that bear on the state of “journalism” these days. In turn, we comment on them, sometimes expanding the conversation. That seems a good thing.
We have discussed Sandy Hook predominantly and that’s fine as well. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about that or anything else, for that matter.
Suddenly we have this lawyer complaining about the article and the posters, etc.. Did I miss something? Nobody here claimed to be starting a “movement” nor were they asked to sign an oath of allegiance to Mr. Halbig.
Personally, if what he is doing is on the up and up, I salute him. If it isn’t we’ll find out. Of all the places to go to shield him from “attack” this is the least likely. I can certainly think of other, more productive venues to go to protect him.
…and yet I, in my most humble opinion would suggest NOT tying up CT gov staff with thousands of additional FOIA requests.
One should focus like a laser in getting them to comply with an appropriate one already filed (assuming there is at least one).
A concentrated force should fight for the release of info, etc.
A barrage of inquiries, calls, emails, etc. will make this crew and those participating look like a bunch of wing nuts. It’s not that kind of conduct that wins. Who would recommend such an irresponsible attack?
Beth once again, your are smack dab spot on. It is the FOIA requests and a federal lawsuit that will get these lard asses in CT moving along a little quicker. Unfortunately, a barrage of calls and emails is what will have to occur to get CT officials to do their job. They do not feel that they need to comply with laws and statutes. You can certainly file the request but getting them to fulfill their obligations is a full time job.
Samantha – it will surely get more interesting if they are pressed in court. I’d bet a lot of folks in CT are spending / have spent some late nights in front of the document and disc shredder 🙂
I am curious dayw777, as an attorney representing Mr. Halbig’s interests, are you not breaking the attorney client privilege by even stating that he is your client, and then discussing the matter? By the way, I hope you’re representing him pro bono due to the fact he has to request donations to finish his mission. I don’t want to donate to his “legal fees”, my donations are for Mr. Halbig. He used to be easy to contact, now he’s almost gone missing. Is this due to your advice?
I am curious dayw777, as an attorney representing Mr. Halbig’s interests, are you not breaking the attorney client privilege by even stating that he is your client, and then discussing the matter? By the way, I hope you’re representing him pro bono due to the fact he has to request donations to finish his mission. I don’t want to donate to his “legal fees”, my donations are for Mr. Halbig. He used to be easy to contact, now he’s almost gone missing. Is this due to your advice?
dayw777 Are you representing Mr. Halbig’s personal interests or assisting him in his quest for the truth? Are you charging Wolfgang for your time while you’re making comments here? There is a big difference in your scope of representation whether or not you’re assisting him in his investigation or you’re representing his personal interests. And yes, since you’ve already breached confidentiality, you may as well let us all know the scope of your representation.
Samantha, excellent inquiry.
I just read an article about a case last year involving an attorney who felt compelled to make on-line posts in connection with representation of a client– he was disciplined, of course.
An engaged attorney is a fiduciary, of course. Fiduciaries don’t blather on in blogs and give out their emails to respond to issues of a more personal nature (as was done last night). Those exchanges were highly entertaining but suspect.
Thank you Beth, you and I seem to be on the same page. I am just discovering Mr. Williams, and find it upsetting and suspect to know he has breached attorney/client privilege, is up all night responding to blog posts and posting legal correspondence on facebook of all places. To me, Mr. Williams is after nothing more than connecting his name to Wolfgang’s quest. Soon, Mr. Williams will have his own “donate to me” website.
Samantha – could be. One must also suspect that perhaps the man is not who he says he is…but I’ve not heard (so far) of the “real” person complaining about being contacted out of the blue by people wanting to know about his connection to Halbig…so…so far, I guess …this guy is who is says he is. He’s very quiet this morning…must have some estate planning or product liability work to do or he is diligently responding personally to the emails he’s getting after giving out his “personal” email to answer questions directly…(sure, sure he is).
Tony Mead is having a phone conversation with Wolfgang today, we shall wait and see what comes of it. That is the plan and agreement anyway.
An attorney speaking publicly in regard to a client’s personal business and private affairs can be reprimanded by the bar and/or disbarred, regardless of the fact that he or she may be no longer representing the client. Discussing a client’s or past client’s criminal history, or otherwise, is viewed as a breach of fiduciary responsibilities.
Great minds think alike, Samantha. I just created a similar post – while you were tying yours – but you said it better, I think.
Wasn’t able to reply to your shredding comment, but that made me laugh imagining them all spending countless hours throughout the night destroying documents. A federal lawsuit can be filed in WA DC. It costs a filing fee of $400 or the plaintiff can ask for a waiver of the initial filing fee. I have looked into it, but that’s as far as it went.
Hi Samantha…cool beans! Thanks for that info (filing fee info).
Mr. Williams, Wolfgang’s “attorney” is making this worse for Wolfgang. Mr. Williams’ priority should be Wolfgang. He should not be stirring the pot to continue further divisiveness. I don’t believe this is what Wolfgang signed up for.Wolfgang is “old school”. He is not computer savvy, he doesn’t know how to watch youtube videos he doesn’t have a cell phone. He is an old fashioned crime fighter. He is using his crime fighting instincts in his own SH investigation. His so called attorney is causing his credibility to fall.
Beth if you’re interested in helping file FOI requests or filing a civil case, got to my youtube page Samantha Caine and contact me there. I do have a video up on how to file a federal lawsuit, I think I will make a similar video for the FOI requests. It sounds to me like you’ve got a legal background, if not a legal thinking mind. SC
The client has probably consented here.
Assuming he’s consented? This is why I’ve asked several times in what capacity does he represent WH?
Amen! I totally agree! Talk is cheap…I don’t see anyone else risking their lives and being subjected to so much crap, to seek out the truth and actually accomplish something!
Jeeez wolfgang has been dodging bullets for weeks. They should put him on a Wheaties box.
Well, if that happens, I hope the Wheaties box designer can get an actual current picture of him.
Hopefully his picture won’t be posted elsewhere for other reasons.
You “represent” Wolfgang Halbig? How is this so? You could be Joe Blow from off the street for all we know. I don’t believe you are his attorney. You say, “Anyone can request public records, etc.” Sir, have you not talked to your supposed “client”?? The CT officials are not responding to any FOIA requests. Or are you as his “attorney” not aware of this?? I say you are a fraud/hack and your story is BS! Attorney, my A$$!!
Mr. Williams, Were you given permission by Wolfgang to post legal correspondence on a facebook page? I am very concerned about how you’re broadcasting your legal relationship with WH. Did he hire you as PR for him? I wonder if he’s aware of all of this? It seems very unprofessional of you.
As I’ve just posted moments ago at Fetzer’s radio page,
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/03/jeff-rense-gary-king.html
March 21, 2014 at 8:43 AM
Dr. Fetzer: could you confirm what’s alleged at Wolfgang’s Facebook donations page to be an email from you to a number of recipients expressing disgust at Sofia’s alleged support of an anti-Wolfgang youtube vid?
https://www.facebook.com/SandyHookJustice
^ an image of your alleged email is there somewhere, I don’t know how to permalink to it. It appears WH has someone else administering that FB page, and as you’re surely aware, James Tracy just published an article suggesting that a number of nefarious “handlers” have cozied up with WH to “help him”.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/19/wolfgangs-bad-company
I’m remaining skeptical of the whole “drama” with WH & his handlers, what Sofia is alleged to have said of the anti-WH video, and now your alleged email Dr. Fetzer, until I get something more verifiable to chew on.
If you did send the email depicted at WH’s FB page, did you first talk or correspond with Sofia to verify? Because all I’ve seen is that the anti-WH video’s maker posted a message somewhere CLAIMING Sofia called him by phone, praised the video, and claimed she had more ‘dirt’ to share– but apparently didn’t share said dirt even though she was allegedly live on the phone? Video maker only said he’d share more (from Sofia) when he got it?
All very questionable IMHO, and hope you understand my skepticism. So could you please share whatever your can on this “drama”, or perhaps “engineered wedging”, Dr. Fetzer? Thx, 🙂
I am unable to locate a nonprofit entity in FL with Sandy Hook / Sandy Hook Justice in the name or anything similar that can be tied to Mr. Halbig.
Perhaps Mr. Day Williams can allude to what state it is filed in (if not FL).
Mr. Halbig should not be collecting money in his own name for this cause. Not only would this be highly suspect but the tax and other implications would be… well, not a good thing.
Fetzer has a response to your questions, PatColo, currently at the bottom of the page you linked to: http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/03/jeff-rense-gary-king.html
I’m not going to copy and paste his response here. I’ll just say that I’m unimpressed with Fetzer’s apparently blind willingness to continue to “strongly support” Halbig while having the gall to go after Sofia and Dr. Tracy, saying they “blundered.” Why doesn’t he just support Halbig if he wants to WITHOUT condemning others who don’t? I know, it’s not his style to keep his mouth shut…
All this leaves me wondering if Halbig and Company are sitting back now and chuckling to themselves “Mission Accomplished.”
*sigh*
FETZER: “Wolf has only asked for donations to support efforts, including legal ones, to get to the bottom of this. He is not taking even a nickle.” (emphasis mine)
Oh really? So Fetzer has access to Halbig’s accounts now? Seriously, why does Fetzer seem so sure of this claim?
Agreed…unless i was talking about someone I felt I knew inside and out, I wouldn’t bet my reputation on the “not taking any of the money.”
This silly thing is…he is. He is if he using the money to fund his trips, meals, etc.
Now, that brings me back around again to an entity that should be receiving the funds – a nonprofit or ? – I cannot find anything of a similar name to connect to Halbig in FL. So, where is the money going? In the attorney’s escrow-trust account for the benefit of Halbig?
People donating deserve to know where the funds are going…in terms of an entity, etc. Maybe large donors would like a tax write-off. Maybe Mr. Halbig doesn’t want a big tax implication for 2014. So…Mr. Williams, the “legal liaison” or “legal counsel” or “whatever” for Mr. Halbig seems to be so quiet now…
Thank you and well put Beth D. You put it much more eloquently than I. Haven’t heard from Day Williams yet, have we? Would love to know in what capacity he is “representing” Wolfgang.
Hi Samantha! Thanks for your note. You’re very kind.
No word yet… I’ve been watching all day (no pun intended) and Day Williams has been very quiet. I had to chuckle at his Website note that he is known as a “fine legal writer.” He’s also a “visual artist” and a legal + fiction writer, don’tcha know.
I know you’ve been wanting to see him in action (picture him reading aloud some of those nasty posts from last night): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub68CAS0Z10
132 YouTube videos. Wow, he keeps busy. Ah: THIS ONE will leave you scratching your head. Just having fun with grandkids, hopefully:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIhwSKOjp0I&list=UUH38hCTGgMm7Rn3c8A-KN2A
Here’s Mr. Williams’ video library – he does like to film himself:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH38hCTGgMm7Rn3c8A-KN2A/videos?view=0&flow=grid
He’s also had some recent experience representing fraudsters: Ouch! $5.2 million….
http://www.mindenlaw.com/News-Articles-and-Links.shtml
Interesting that he was the writer of this story (link below) on the tragic death of a young gal that was apparently not properly investigated. There is a fund involved to raise money for the family to hire a private investigator, etc.
http://ickenews.www2.50megs.com/america/nevada/080100a.html
Interesting writings out there by Mr. Williams…I can see perhaps why he is attracted to Wolfgang’s cause:
Anyway, I wonder if those posters who had questions got their answers after Williams sent them his email address. No one has reported in…yet.
Not to be rude, but with all the videos with him vidoeing himself reading out of the bible doesn’t sit well with me. I think he likes to hear himself talk. Another fundraiser huh? Wonder if he gets his 33 1/3%? I’ve been checking this regularly and have not gotten a response from Day Williams. I also haven’t heard from Wolfgang, I’ve called and emailed. They’ve probably got him in a bubble.
Hi Samantha, not rude at all. I found it creepy.
I’d be willing to be the liaison does not come back here.
Samantha – He is likely subscribed and reading everything but has slinked away from yapping anymore nastiness at us.
Once again – agreed.
more likely that he already billed wolfgang beyond his ten thousand dollars. blogging is an expensive sport.
Day’s blog: http://www.daysworld.org/daysworldblog/
Great find, Zem!
Did you donate to his site? Hahahahaha. Wow. Where does he find the time to practice law these days – all those videos, a blog, etc., etc.,
I’ve just posted the following to Dr. Fetzer’s radio blog:
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/03/jeff-rense-gary-king.html
Thank you for your reply Dr. Fetzer. 🙂
I’m still unclear on the question of whether you spoke/emailed with Sofia before sending your inflammatory, “bridge-burning” email(s) and giving your permission for their wide publication at WH’s FB page? I would hate to imagine that the anti-WH vid maker just fabricated the tale of Sofia’s calling him and saying what he’s attributed to her, and bam, this present wedge is driven into SHoax-Truth. Why would Sofia initiate a call to the anti-WH guy, then not share her alleged ‘more dirt’ right there live in the phone call? So anti-WH guy could just eagerly share this Sofia story as he’s done, and leave everyone guessing & infighting??
And Dr. Fetzer, further ‘confounding’ is your choice to approve posting your emails into the public realm (WH’s FB page), while everyone remains in the dark about what Sofia’s concerns about WH even are? What ‘GOOD’ could come of that? All we have to chew on are the vague, dubious, and possibly vaporous claims of the openly anti-WH video guy.
Any chance of your having Sofia on your show again soon, to air out your respective concerns, Dr. Fetzer? Hearing Sofia express her (alleged) concerns for herself, is the giant missing puzzle piece in this current drama.
I was surprised, Dr. Tracy, that you put up the first post about Mr. Halbig, as I considered his correspondence to be an embarrassment, thus I am glad to see that you are openly questioning his judgment. Disinformation reigns, and skeptics are easily mocked by those that follow the party line even when their behavior is above reproach.
I think we need some engagement and transparency here.
1. Wolfgang should disclose the names of the officers that “threatened” him.
2. Wolfgang should disclose the full nature and substance of the roles of the personnel managing his FB pages.
3. A fully engaged discussion between Professor Tracy and Wolfgang Halbig on the Sandy Hook issues and concerns including the use of handlers, the potential misdirected motives of “handlers” (cognitive infiltrators) the scope of any forthcoming investigation and any other related issues of merit would be very fruitful.
4. A simple binary (yes or no) response by Professor Tracy regarding whether or not David Weis or Thomas Lapp were his proposed “handlers” earlier last year would be constructive.
Bill – good points. Full disclosure is always the best policy with these types of things.
Thomas Lapp has already said he is one of the the handlers mentioned in the article.
I talked with Mr. Lapp over the last two days and he has given me permission to share the conversation, to be fair he has been willing to answer questions promptly. One part that is not posted that relates to the first question is essentially that Thomas thinks that Tracy is mistaken about his experience with him and/or has been having someone whispering in his ears (that he has been gotten to). I find it hard to believe but I realize anything is possible.
Kyle Sainz said:
you really think someone got to tracy? why him? and what purpose would it serve to accuse yall? it would only confirm this as a viable path eh?
Thomas Lapp said:
I really don’t want to think that, but anything is possible. The funny thing is when I worked with him and was starting the organization that he named. I kind of had the same idea that Wolfgang had. I wanted to hire attorneys and try to push things through legal channels. On top of that I fought to get a meeting with the FBI. This was when me and James were in contact with Joyce Riley from the power hour. She had the idea that I would meet with the FBI, them immediately after she would announce it on the air for the purpose of getting people in the public to put pressure on them. Well things went completely backwards and I found myself blacklisted with no support. With no success in sight I took the site down and allowed the organization to dissolve. So yeah I have to say that it seemed right when we were about to make things official things went wrong. After that I sent him an email apologizing for whatever I had done and that I hoped to hear from him again. Months later he called me out of nowhere and just began conversating with me just like we used to. He basically started out saying “well anything new on sandy hook?” I told him I didn’t really have anything and he started to update me on a few things from his end. At no point did he mention anything about me getting cut off, it was almost like to him nothing had ever happened. Was really strange and that was the last time I heard from him. Until now where he is all of a sudden taking jabs at me. He says the organization “turned out to be a fraud” but I don’t really know what he means by that. Because they were registered businesses in the state of nj. They just never went anywhere. It’s all strange to me and I hate to say it but it makes me suspicious. Because Wolfgang is seriously about to make a major break here and it seems like right now the heat is being turned up. What can I say. I used to think that Alex jones was the greatest patriot of all time, obviously not anymore though.
Kyle Sainz said:
well it is encouraging to hear you say you dont buy alex, after seeing him go into character on Piers it confirmed what i thought, that he muddies water..meet with the FBI, that is bold, how could they look at that evidence and walk away! but arent they involved in framing terror etc etc.. idkthis whole thing, it is tough to grasp, if Wolf can do a video that would really help on one level, beyond that i guess the coming days should help everyone get better handles for what is going on, and i apologize in advance if ive been wrong, this back and forth is rough, were dealing with some deep shit here if it goes up to Solomon and the CFR, makes me think twice
Thomas Lapp said:
I have to go to bed but tomorrow I will give you more details on my meet with the FBI. As well as my brush with Alex jones that basically put the nail in the coffin to him being a gate keeper.
thanks
3 hours ago
Kyle Sainz said:
well James Tracy replied to a comment on the article so I assume he is back from his vacation!
39 minutes ago
Thomas Lapp said:
I didn’t realize he was on vacation, perhaps that is why we have not heard from him as of yet. Hopefully we will hear back.
Kyle Sainz said:
i was joking, i know he was mia for a day or two
Thomas Lapp said:
Anyhow I said last night I would tell you more about my meet with the FBI as well as what happened with Alex Jones/Infowars.
Kyle Sainz said:
well he commented on a comment on the article about handlers and had essentially defended veterans today to an extent saying their history is solidyeah id like to hear more, i dont really get the jist of pressuring the fbi and why they would budge on alt media pressure, is the fbi meet somehow tied to james tracy’s convictions that you and weiss are controlled opposition?
Thomas Lapp said:
I got an appointment with a supervisory special agent from the Cherry Hill, NJ field office. The angle that I was showing him was the actors, and believe it or not even he himself admitted there were some dead on matches. Of course about 15% through it he looked at his phone and said he had to go, so our meeting was cut short. I brought a dvd disc along with me that contained every piece of research I had and handed it to him. He handed it back to me and said “you should probably hold onto that, I might lose it”. Isn’t that strange? That a supervisory special agent from the FBI is not going to take a disc because he is going to lose it? This is a guy who is trained to handle evidence and has moved up through the ranks. I walked away with the feeling that they were just not interested.
Kyle Sainz said:
yeah, i guess they know shady events happen and they know their boundaries i supposei have no faith the fbi can be help to the cause they entrap wannabee terrorist constantlyIs the fbi thing tied to the tracy article?
Thomas Lapp said:
Shortly after I was able to get into contact with Mike Adams through his site Natural News. I asked Mike to join me in a GotoMeeting online. I began showing him the research and he was blown away but what we had. Finally I got to the little girl who was seen photographed with Victoria Soto and I showed him the actual girl in the Greenberg family albums. Mike screamed out “oh my God that’s the same girl”. Many of the matches are pretty good, but that one girl is absolutely undeniable. He got really excited and asked “have you talked to Alex Jones yet?” I told him no. He said “I am meeting with Alex Jones tonight to go shooting and I am going to tell him all about this, tomorrow me and him are going to call you back, he needs to see this”. That was the last thing I heard, all communication was cut off. I even called James Tracy and he even seemed confused as to why they didn’t get back to me. James said he would reach out to them since he had their personal email addresses and he eventually came back and said that he was not getting replies from anyone. Shortly after we had our “mishap” and James cut me off.
Kyle Sainz said:
hmmmMike Adams is cointel for health he makes things seem crazy and incomplete to create a target for main stream, that is what i believenegative on purpose
Thomas Lap said:
Now honestly, I am not really pushing the actors angle, nor is Wolfgang or David. I realize that there are some really good matches that come together, but the problem is it is still debatable. A lot of people who do not have any formal training tend to make a lot of mistakes when it comes to matching up faces. Like those who claim that the same woman who played Laura Phelps is playing some attorney in the James Holmes case. Then you have people who no matter what will just say you have no matches at all, and that you are delusional. When I met with the heads from my company I showed them all of the matches. They over and over again said “not even close, two different people”. Then I started showing them multiple photos of the same people, for instance I showed them a couple of pictures of Noah Pozner, once again they say “nope, completely different kids” even though they were in fact looking at the same kid. So basically I told them what I was doing by showing them the same person, I proved a point to them that they might not be as qualified to do this kind of thing. So with that said I am no pushing the actors angle because it’s an angle that is full of land mines. I think that Wolfgang is doing things the correct way by forcing them to answer his questions. Because he is going to at some point force someone to commit perjury.
Kyle Sainz said:
what about approaching JAmes Tracy with the Greenberg file and the vigilante stuff? Was that you or Weiss or both, did you do that, and is it different then how James recounts it?and if it was you or y’all why did you post on his behalf when he hadnt agreed
Thomas Lapp said:
First of all, there was no vigilante stuff whatsoever. I think James took something I said and misunderstood it. During our research, we actually were able to locate the physical addresses of where some of these people are living. I said to James that one concern I had is that if we released everything to the public, including their locations, that citizens may take things into their own hands. My concern was that other people may result to vigilante justice, I never insinuated that we have any part of such thing. I even said the same to the FBI agent before I left his office. I told him that we might release everything to the public and that other people out there might decide to take things into their own hands and create a dangerous situation. He responded to me by saying “you have your 1st amendment right to free speech, so you can’t be held responsible if that happens”
Kyle Sainz said:
i can see how the vigilante part could potentially be misunderstood, i thought of that ‘possibility’ as soon as i read the article
Thomas Lapp said:
As far as posting on James’ behalf, I posted his Sandy Hook timeline on the new site and I did that without asking him first. I guess I assumed he would be ok with it. Also there were posts that I said that we were working with him, which that was not a lie because we we’re in fact working with him. I think all of that put together he thought that people would think we were working with him on a official capacity of some sort and he wanted that to be clarified. I did immediately remove his timeline, and released a public statement that he is not working with us on any official level, that we were just “exchanging notes”. I will admit and I have before that I was very zealous to move forward with this thing, I was in a hurry to get some action on this. After seeing what I saw I was very angry about how people are being lied to, and I wanted to see it all fall apart.
I have friends who are cops, even a friend who works in the US Attorneys office. Family in the prosecutor’s office where I live. Trust me, I am not going to allow myself to be wrapped up in any type of vigilante justice of any kind. I know that doing so would only turn into the government using it as another opportunity to show how “out of control” Americans are and that we have to have our guns taken away.
Kyle Sainz said:
What about the Greenberg file, is that what was in part or wholly entailed in what you tried to give the fbi agent? Why such a focus n the greenberg thesis as James put it, especially knowing Dallas Goldbug and others use that to create disinfo/misinfo …Goldbug is a known agent provocatuerI understand the zealous stuff, you see how i can get, and there are a couple guys in jail for the same
Thomas Lapp said:
I know all about Dallas Goldbug/Ed Charini. His tactic is when someone out there comes out with some credible evidence, he takes a small piece of what you have and surrounds it with a bunch of bull. This tactic effectively desensitizes people to the real evidence. That is why you see his followers always saying “but some of his research is legit”. He claims Robbie Parker is Tony Hawk and that James Tracy is Jeff Tremain from Jackass. Why such a focus? Well there are many people out there who have focused themselves onto one aspect of the Sandy Hook hoax. I was fortunate enough to be able to gather tons of photographs, I even got about 500 photos of the Parker family. I also being in the business I am in have access to very expensive facial recognition software, as well as access to experienced photographers and graphic designers. I think there are a lot of great researchers out there that are approaching this from different angles. Not one single angle is the correct one, and I think that people should all continue to do what they do regardless of what angle they are approaching. One problem in the Sandy Hook truth community is that people have the attitude of “if you are not investigating exactly what I am investigating then you are a troll and a shill working as a disinformation agent”. People get butt hurt because someone is not interested in their angle. We get people messaging us all the time crying out “why are you guys not posting about the actors?” Because they feel passionate about their angle, they feel that you MUST jump on board.
Kyle Sainz said:
hmmmthe recent actor video of that black guy is the best one yet, he is flat out bustedthe one who acts in that horror movie
Thomas Lapp said:
I don’t think I saw that one.
Kyle Sainz said:
best one everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4e01mm8Eck
Thomas Lapp said:
Man, we get so many people private messaging us so many videos and articles that we would have to hire a staff of like 20 people just to deal with it all. And it’s frustrating because people get upset if you don’t jump on their bandwagon. Everyone out there is an expert, and if you don’t follow their lead then your a troll or controlled opposition.
very new discovery, less then week old
ThomasLapp said:
gonna watch now
Kyle Sainz said:
r u ok with me sharing your respones with the SHH community?
Thomas Lapp said
i have no problem with that if you will do it in an honest fashion. You can take one single post and make people believe anything you want, and that is what I have a problem with. Obviously you are not under any legal restriction and you can do what you want, but I would ask you to please be honest. I would love to show people that I am not any kind of a handler or controlled opposition of any kind. I am willing to answer any questions from anyone so keep that in mind.
i can see that and i see in your eyes your pissed at the illuminati in your profile pici mean that is one thought i have
Kyle Sainz said:
i can see that and i see in your eyes your pissed at the illuminati in your profile pic
i mean that is one thought i have
Thomas Lapp said:
Yes, I am very upset about the evil in this world that is deceiving people in massive numbers. I just looked at that video you sent and that is really compelling stuff, going into my collection. I think that the actors angle is a good angle, but that’s not the direction Wolfgang is going in. And even though I am designing his web site, I’m not authorized to put anything on his site without his consent, that’s in his contract. However, I think that after he gets things moving and this thing ends up turning into a real criminal investigation, all of the material on the actors is going to become evidence is is going to land into the hands of law enforcement.
Kyle – thank you for your efforts.
@Bill- Regarding the names of the officers that threatened or visited him, Wolfgang mentioned their names at the end of his second interview with Dave Gahary of AFP: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15894
The names of the detective from the Lake County Sheriff’s Office that Wolfgang says visited him are Detective Clay Watkins and Detective Cliff Husky(sp?)
Off topic but more and more money wanted in Newtown (this week’s news):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/newtown-mental-health-money_n_4979255.html
Just cruising Halbig’s facebook page. He addressed the handler situation. He said the handler is his wife!! Funny.
I’m still keeping hope alive that Halbig is legit.
David Weiss pasted on Halbig’s page that he is bowing out of this deal, so we may never know if that is a legit man bowing out or something fishier.
On Thomas Lapp he is more forthcoming and answers more questions but I think the approach he took with trying to be James handler is still suspect though he attributes it to misunderstanding I personally think even if Thomas Lapp did it with good intentions that it makes him not the right person to assist Halbig. For now he is building Wolf’s website and Wolf seems willing to let that play out even though he seemed to admit there is something to wonder about and I assume that is from this article here.
I thought perhaps the regular crew here at MHB would enjoy this article (a favorite creeper of many – Cass Sunstein):
“The Taming of the Deluded Conspiracy Theorists”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-21/taming-deluded-conspiracy-theorists
Do the regulars here follow WHalbig on FBook? (Sandy Hook Justice)?
Looks like ol’ WH is still making friends in Newtown. I have no idea why he continues to contact people directly when he supposedly has attorneys working with him. This guy…I tell ya…
He was after the Newtown Bee editor who informed him he wasn’t welcome in Newtown + refused to sell him photos (unsure why he wants copies of published photos).
He also says he contacted by police again who indicated he would be cited for harassment if he doesn’t stop calling the port-a-potty company. So, in response – he wants his followers to do what he has done. Great.
WH also posted a weird veiled fundraising appeal along with his views that he expects to be arrested for asking questions. For those non-FBook users:
“If ‘We The People; can proof through donations and I mean financial help on GOFUNDME or Pay Pal for our legal team to factually proof that these pictures and that the CT State Police Dispatchers timeline are false and that the CT State Police and the Newtown Police Department along with the Newtown Public Schools have intentionally committed this Illusion on all of the American people someone needs to go to jail quickly.
This will also allow us to take our facts to a State or Federal Judge through our attorney’s in asking that a body of the child as bad as it may sound be exhumed in order to proof that the pictures and the CSP dispatcher timelines have been created to deceive us therefore causing households in America being divided with some believing that it really happend and the other people in the home being told that they have serious mental health issues as the case is in my house today.
When you create Panic and Fear throughout our country which they have it can be called Domestic Terrorism forcing law abiding citizens who purchased their guns legally and who owned their guns now must give up something they bought and own because of Sandy Hook.
If I am wrong I expect to be arrested for making false claims against our President, Attorney General Eric Holder and our former Director of the FBI Robert Mueller.
Please you men of honor please prove me wrong and arrest me.
I want to face my accusers and then go to Discovery by having my accusers under oath.
We will start with those pictures that have been pasted in every Newspaper, Magazine and appeared on every National News Channel 24/7 until this country became brainwashed about Sandy Hook.
They (Law Enforcement) should not have come to my house so now I am going to their house in Newtown and Sandy Hook.
wolfgang”
Beth, I took a well deserved break from anything related to Sandy Hook. Then I heard Wolfie’s newest interview. I have to note how when it comes to “us”, we need to funnel our questions and comments through his “attorney” but if has an attorney, what gives him the right to go full board into CT and/or make contact pro se, without his attorney? This makes no sense, nothing does. We will be spinning our wheels for an eternity about this, going nowhere.
I took the same break, Samantha 🙂
I’ll have to check out his latest interview. Thanks for noting that there was something new out there.
He’s probably one of those clients that cause attorneys angst because they go off half-cocked in 10 directions. Seriously, he will burn through donations having his attorneys deal with harassment charges. He seems to not have a edit button on his conduct.
It is that conduct that will create a very unfortunate stereotype for others who want to come forward to learn the truth. Who wants to follow a “truther” who harasses, acts unreasonable in public, confronts the wrong people (in terms of who to go to for info), and gets arrested? Newtown will be overly armed to the gills after their Halbig experience and it’ll be like trying to gold out of the…oh, nevermind that analogy, there’s no gold there anymore :).
Beth I agree 100%. I, initially supported his efforts. That was the beginning of FEBRUARY. It is now mid April. He was ready to go alone then. He’s been taken on and told what to do now. Oh you can guarantee CT has had three months now to prepare for his boisterous entrance. His “people” are orchestrating a show down, all for MSM I am sure. He may have a mile long CV but he has zero finesse. Can’t wait to see what MSM has in store for this meeting…..once this bumbling idiot f*cks things up, it’s over in the way of getting to the truth with any dignity for the rest of us.
Maybe one of the members of the town will accidentally bump him with their car and his personal injury – civil rights attorney can sue.
I wish I could be a bug on the wall at a few of the town’s and school board meetings. If I was on their school board or a member of the police force- follower or non-follower of the SHook ways…I would not be looking forward to that sh*t show. Excuse my language. There are likely going to be a lot of people with their passions riled up on both sides of the room and in the middle.
It was an AFP interview by the way. If he truly had an attorney relating to SH, he would not be able to be contacting officials, bureaucracies, etc without his attorney. So I am led to believe he does not have an attorney relating to his voyage to Newtown. I have asked Day to state here his scope of representation of Halbig and he ignores the inquiry. Therefore in my eyes, he is not represented by an attorney relating to his inquiries of officials in CT, but he is represented by an attorney for his media presence and non-presence. He is nothing other than a fame-seeker, he is not a truth-seeker. Plus the fact that Halbig states the same comments word for word over and over, is a big red flag. He doesn’t talk, he states. He is not who I want representing the wide world of truthers.
Hey Samantha, if that’s the case, then pasting or retyping a communication from the CT attorney confirming the receipt of the retainer and initial contact to local (CT) officials is certainly fraudulent. The donated money is to be used for legal fees to get answers, not for PR and such.
But…certainly any attorney would be trying to tape up his mouth (figuratively).
Check out the Go Fund Me page for Sandy Hook Justice –
Which begs the question…if he has received this message of cooperation from the town…why is he still harassing folks?
As you know, Beth, when I re-read my comments here, and find that the Mac “helped” my by changing the word I wanted to write into something completely different, or that I an the one at fault, it pains me. Reading Wolf is en entirely different experience. I doubt anyone could be this illiterate, with the CV (however inflated) he claims. This has to be a hoax. Sure, there are illiterates all around us. It’s just that they are the people we glimpse standing at bus stops as we whir along the roadway. They don’t attempt to write things they then want us to read.
This is very, very strange.
Indeed.
My only plausible explanation for all of that is he was a successful football player in college so the high school turned a blind eye or someone helped him pass his courses.
WH came to the U.S. when he was 12…or 16…depending upon which story you read (that he supposedly wrote – you’d think he’d get those ages straight). So, I’m thinking someone(s) passed him along the grades. When he gets his scholarship to the Texas college — well, I can only think the same thing happened there. His major was PE and something else (forget at the moment) so not too overwhelming.
I assume his studies at the police academy didn’t require too much written text as he says he graduated at the top of his class and spoke to the graduating class. Hmmm, wonder if anyone would verify that story. You’d think they’d teach harassment at the police academy but after 4 decades, maybe he forgot those studies. He’s looking like a nut job and then asks his donors to follow suit. Yikes. Well, then again, he forgot how to secure his weapon, too – (house break-in and youth stole his unsecured gun).
Well, when he gets to Newtown, I’ll have to make a big bowl of popcorn and see what happens.
LOL at the ‘big bowl of popcorn’ comment.
The press coverage will be interesting but likely all independent media. No one else pays him much mind.
I needed this break to gain some clarity and another thing I am clear about is this; at his age it is acceptable to make spelling errors due to mental clarity and spell check ignorance/aversions. But you know what? It is not acceptable nor cute anymore. He’s got his “people” now. There is no reason for it. I am ashamed to know that he taught children and can’t specify proof from prove, et al., It appears almost intentional now which is disgusting. I make errors all the time, I do not consider myself a master of the English language but dammit, if you’re being paid by tax dollars to work in a school system then learn to spell and talk properly and learn how to correct your communications.
“It appears almost intentional now which is disgusting.”
I think that is the only reasonable conclusion at this point.
Who ignores spell-check? Does he think those words are underlined in red because the computer thinks he is making important points??
Maybe it’s a FL thing…in some areas only, of course.
I have heard teachers in my area absolutely slaughter the English language.
This topic reminds me of a time when we first visited northern FL. This woman (we later learned was a h.s. teacher) came up to my son in a store, thinking he worked there and said, “Where the butter be at?” Wow. We later moved to the area and imagine my surprise when I saw that this gal was a teacher. I have also sat in school meetings and heard similar attempts at English. I’m sure my mouth was hanging open, I was exhausted by the efforts to mentally correct them (or translate).
It’s the only state where the more north you go, the more south it gets.
giggling here; guilty of incorrect verbage at times, but not spelling.
We can all get things twisted up sometimes…but this guy just seems to think in such fuzzy terms and then it’s like he just throws up in text form. 🙂
Mohamed Ali had 13 handlers…..you can’t make it out there in the world of notoriety alone. And let’s face it, Mohammed Ali wasn’t scared of anyone or anything, and here’s Wolfie promising for months to go to CT to find answers, nothings slowed him down but his handlers.
(Wolfgang’s) Spouting off about exhuming the graves of school children is just not the path to go down.
Funny how in his last interview how he paints those who find fault with him as people sitting in dark rooms on their computers.
This from the salesman who is pushing his fundraising about every 6th sentence: “This why everyone needs to invest in the Sandy Hook Justice Fund because the Sandy Hook Shooting Illusion needs to be exposed and broken and with you and our attorney it can happen.”
I also love how he directs people away from the police report. Better to have his flock in the dark and just let him do the reading…